Welcome to one of the most active flamenco sites on the Internet. Guests can read most posts but if you want to participate click here to register.
This site is dedicated to the memory of Paco de Lucía, Ron Mitchell, Guy Williams, Linda Elvira, Philip John Lee, Craig Eros, Ben Woods, David Serva and Tom Blackshear who went ahead of us.
We receive 12,200 visitors a month from 200 countries and 1.7 million page impressions a year. To advertise on this site please contact us.
|
|
|
RE: Doctor Compas Public Beta Version
|
You are logged in as Guest
|
|
Users viewing this topic: none
|
|
Login  | |
|
  
srshea
Posts: 833
Joined: Oct. 29 2006
From: Olympia, WA in the Great Pacific Northwest
|
 RE: Doctor Compas Public Beta Version (in reply to JasonMcGuire)
|
|
|
Works and sounds great!
I dunno nothin’ about how these things work and if you’re already past the point where can, or even want to, add features, but something that I’ve never seen in a metronome and think would be a really, really useful tool is some kind of subida feature. It’d be great to be able to practice tempo increases at a steady rate, and it’d be good for gradually warming up technique drills and stuff.
So, some kind of deal where you select a starting tempo, a target tempo and the time span that you’d like the increase to take place over…..
Again, I have zero idea how this stuff works and how easy or difficult the design of such a feature would be, but I think that would be a serious mo-fo!
|
|
|
|
REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |
Date Mar. 6 2010 10:51:51
 |
|
JasonMcGuire
Posts: 1141
Joined: Apr. 10 2007
|
|
RE: Doctor Compas Public Beta Version (in reply to Ricardo)
|
|
|
quote:
But then I noticed you have also the 6's and Jaleos. For me the randomness and improvisation in the shorter compases like these is, well, TOO random if that makes sense. Not sure why because what was happening in the 12 beat compas was perfect. It seems there is never a groove at all in the shorter compases and the changes keep coming. Not sure what is involved to fix that.
Only other curious thing was the Tanguillo, for me the way I feel the beat is not what your count or metronome click is doing. Relative to what you have there I feel 1 yes, but the second strong beat is the "&" between your counts 2 and 3.....so that the accent on 3 is felt like an off or up beat. And going to 6 makes it cuadrao, so that happens again for counts 4, then between counts 5 and 6
We do have a solution for this in the works Ricardo. Its going to take a little while to implement but it will provide a means for the program to stay in a groove for a while and then do a "fill" type of thing. Each groove will be random but much more subtle than what we have at the moment. PArt of this Beta Phase is to get some reaction and I completely agree with you on this point. But we also feel that the accident we created in those jaleos and sixes patterns are kind of cool and we are going to keep them as a preset. I actually love playing to them because they push me to do some pretty cool stuff when I am improvising along with them.  Most people do however need something a bit more tame to accomplish their goals.
The tanguillo is counted in 4 here, but we will have it selectable to count in 6's.
Tanguillo,as I think of it, is 4 quarter notes with a subdivision of eighth note triplets. Each beat is divided into 3 parts, so there really is no "&", thats what creates that "delayed" or "drunk" contra feeling. This is a public beta, we have been in a private beta with professional dancers, guitarists and singers for about 6 months. They have all given their blessings. We have had a number of "beginners" too, mostly my private students. They have learned to keep compas quicker than normal and have nearly all stated that they understand things better by using Doctor Compas.
We can easily create other types of grooves now that the engine and program are working pretty solid. We will certainly add new patterns and grooves to accomodate users ideas and needs (within reason) after we solve a few things we think are important like EQ, perhaps a reverb, and a couple of secret things I can't talk about because they will take things to a whole different level as far as "natural" sounding goes.
Someone mentioned Solo Compas.... tempo varies, there is often an annoying djembe or dumbek in there and you can't turn it off. You also can't change the tempo easily and you can't do it without the sound quality taking a hit. For the time in which it first came out Solo Compas was a great product, but if you purchase all of those CDs legally , they are pretty expensive. Of course no one product is going to do it for everyone. We will be making lots of improvements and thats the point of the Public Beta.
I hope I don't sound too defensive Ricardo, we do really appreciate the helpful comments and thats the reason for the public beta phase. I knew you would be a tough customer and we will do our best to have your blessing on the metronome.
_____________________________
http://www.Flamenco-Lessons.com/
http://www.CaminosFlamencos.com/
http://www.youtube.com/user/Bikhiyal
http://flamenco-lessons.blogspot.com
|
|
|
|
REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |
Date Mar. 6 2010 11:10:19
|
|
Ricardo
Posts: 14797
Joined: Dec. 14 2004
From: Washington DC
|
|
RE: Doctor Compas Public Beta Version (in reply to JasonMcGuire)
|
|
|
quote:
The tanguillo is counted in 4 here, but we will have it selectable to count in 6's.
Tanguillo,as I think of it, is 4 quarter notes with a subdivision of eighth note triplets. Each beat is divided into 3 parts, so there really is no "&", thats what creates that "delayed" or "drunk" contra feeling.
Agreed, but the program was counting to 6 not to 4. Just to be clear I am thinking dotted quarter note gets the beat, not a normal quarter note. So your "click" sound should be only making 4 sounds per compas....not 6.
Oh, yeah, the solea thing WAS ok for escobillas but there should be different palmas. Maybe you could make "escobilla" settings that have the 1,4,7,10 as downbeats....with some typical grooves for solea, alegrias, tientos, etc....
_____________________________
CD's and transcriptions available here:
www.ricardomarlow.com
|
|
|
|
REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |
Date Mar. 6 2010 14:20:27
|
|
 New Messages |
 No New Messages |
 Hot Topic w/ New Messages |
 Hot Topic w/o New Messages |
 Locked w/ New Messages |
 Locked w/o New Messages |
|
Post New Thread
Reply to Message
Post New Poll
Submit Vote
Delete My Own Post
Delete My Own Thread
Rate Posts
|
|
|
Forum Software powered by ASP Playground Advanced Edition 2.0.5
Copyright © 2000 - 2003 ASPPlayground.NET |
9.423828E-02 secs.
|
Printable Version
