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Patrick

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Now I know what Conde's are for!

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XXX

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RE: Now I know what Conde's are for! (in reply to Patrick)

Since i saw Al DiMeola torturing a Conde with a PICK, nothing can shock me, frankly.

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kovachian

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RE: Now I know what Conde's are for! (in reply to Patrick)

I'm not exactly in love with bluegrass, but that didn't sound half bad.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 28 2010 6:06:14

ToddK

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RE: Now I know what Conde's are for! (in reply to Patrick)

A waste of a great guitar.

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Arash

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RE: Now I know what Conde's are for! (in reply to Patrick)

looking at his right hand, i would say , its not too late, he can easily switch to flamenco.

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kovachian

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RE: Now I know what Conde's are for! (in reply to Patrick)

Strange, I don't see anything being wasted.

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Escribano

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RE: Now I know what Conde's are for! (in reply to Patrick)

Set it to 1080p in the player and go full screen to see what YouTube can do nowadays.

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gj Michelob

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RE: Now I know what Conde's are for! (in reply to kovachian)

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Strange, I don't see anything being wasted.

Agreed.

I viscerally hate the plastic sound of wired nylon strings for any style, be it flamenco or pop; on the other hand I love how the pure sound of a blanca applies to any music, regardless.

I think Escribano can see my youtube searches. This morning I searched for “Country Music on Nylon Strings” to see if and how anyone else is playing country music on a flamenco guitar. Call me a “hilly billy mountaineer redneck” but I liked the experiment (even though this thick blue grass ain’t exactly my th’ng).

Take it easy.

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ToddK

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RE: Now I know what Conde's are for! (in reply to kovachian)

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Strange, I don't see anything being wasted.

And i do...

Yeah, sometimes different human beings see things in a different perspective.

Its a crazy world eh?

TK

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 28 2010 18:37:18

Florian

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RE: Now I know what Conde's are for! (in reply to Escribano)

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Set it to 1080p in the player and go full screen to see what YouTube can do nowadays.

WOW! i ve never seen anything so clear or it sounding so crystal on youtube or any website on my pc before...that must be like 700 mbs file for 5 minutes right ?

would love to find some flamenco this kind of quality

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estebanana

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RE: Now I know what Conde's are for! (in reply to gj Michelob)

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This morning I searched for “Country Music on Nylon Strings” to see if and how anyone else is playing country music on a flamenco guitar

Two words: Willie and Nelson

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 28 2010 23:44:29

Anders Eliasson

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RE: Now I know what Conde's are for! (in reply to Patrick)

Well, I like Bluegrass and I like Willie Nelson as well. Just as I like Sex Pistols and shostakovitch string quartets etc. So I dont have any problems with the upload.

But as a purist, I prefer bluegrass on a steelstring guitar and I like when they wear cowboy hats.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 1 2010 1:10:26

Ron.M

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RE: Now I know what Conde's are for! (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

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But as a purist, I prefer bluegrass on a steelstring guitar

Nah..

"Puro" Bluegrass is 5 string Banjo IMO. (although a guitar backing is allowed.)

Anything else is Fakegrass.

cheers,

Ron

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 1 2010 1:16:28

JasonMcGuire

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RE: Now I know what Conde's are for! (in reply to Ron.M)

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Anything else is Fakegrass

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Pimientito

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RE: Now I know what Conde's are for! (in reply to Ron.M)

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Fakegrass.

NOOOO....Stop Ron, this can only end badly

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 1 2010 1:35:29

Chiste de Gales

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RE: Now I know what Conde's are for! (in reply to Patrick)

The word "foggy" should stopped me, but my curiosity got the better of me.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 1 2010 5:25:14

Estevan

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RE: Now I know what Conde's are for! (in reply to Patrick)

It's just a poor performance of a classic piece - so many places where his compás is off.

This is how it should be:

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[Ron:] "Puro" Bluegrass is 5 string Banjo IMO. (although a guitar backing is allowed.)

"Puro" Bluegrass is mandolin, banjo, guitar, dobro, fiddle, bass - as in the video above.

But since you insist on "puro banjo", this one's for you:

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 1 2010 8:16:31

Ron.M

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RE: Now I know what Conde's are for! (in reply to Estevan)

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"Puro" Bluegrass is mandolin, banjo, guitar, dobro, fiddle, bass - as in the video above.

Yeah...but IMO.. take away any other instrument there and you still got Bluegrass...

Take away the Banjo and you got...well...nuthin!

(Except maybe a "karaoke" backing track for Banjo students!

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cheers,

Ron

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 1 2010 9:04:48

srshea

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RE: Now I know what Conde's are for! (in reply to estebanana)

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Two words: Willie and Nelson

True dat. My absolute favorite non-flamenco nylon stringer. At the height of my fandom I counted sixty five records in my collection.

I call this:

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“The Willie Nelson Chord”, mostly because I’m too lazy to find out what it’s actually called, but also ‘cause I learned it from watching a video of him. I though it was the coolest sounding thing ever, and I couldn’t figure out what the hell it was. Had to stand in front of the TV and lean over and crane my neck until my head was upside down before I could figure out how he was fingering the chord.

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Estevan

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RE: Now I know what Conde's are for! (in reply to Ron.M)

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Take away the Banjo and you got...well...nuthin!

Yeah, Music Minus One - Kentucky style

(Banjo-OK)

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kovachian

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RE: Now I know what Conde's are for! (in reply to Patrick)

A waste of a great forum.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 1 2010 9:24:27

JasonMcGuire

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RE: Now I know what Conde's are for! (in reply to srshea)

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Eb Diminished 7

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ToddK

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RE: Now I know what Conde's are for! (in reply to kovachian)

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A waste of a great forum

I dont see anything being wasted.

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srshea

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RE: Now I know what Conde's are for! (in reply to JasonMcGuire)

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Eb Diminished 7

Eh, I like my pet name for the chord better. You don’t need to change it when you move up the neck.

But thank you, anyway

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kovachian

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RE: Now I know what Conde's are for! (in reply to ToddK)

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I dont see anything being wasted.

And i do...

Yeah, sometimes different human beings see things in a different perspective.

Its a crazy world eh?

RK

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Patrick

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RE: Now I know what Conde's are for! (in reply to Patrick)

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Patrick
I've loved this thread. It really brings back memories. Back in the day it was Duelling Banjos first got me interested in learning to play the guitar. I know it's old-hat now, but at the time I'd never heard anything like it. It still gives me a buzz.

val

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Anders Eliasson

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RE: Now I know what Conde's are for! (in reply to Patrick)

Them Flatt & Scruggs sure got some nice hats. Looks like a band of fake cowboys and undertakers. hiaaa

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Ricardo

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RE: Now I know what Conde's are for! (in reply to JasonMcGuire)

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ORIGINAL: JasonMcGuire

quote:

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Eb Diminished 7

nerd mode on:

D#dim7 is a better. Constructed from Raised 7th in key of Eminor. (D becomes D#). Key of Fb minor is "theoretical" (Raised 7th Ebb becomes Eb).

nerd mode off:

I am surprised Willie even knows this chord.

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Estevan

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RE: Now I know what Conde's are for! (in reply to Ricardo)

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D#dim7 is a better.

Not better; equally good/possible. That's the thing with diminished seventh chords, taken out of context there's no way of knowing because any of the four notes could be the root, and you can't say what key it's in without seeing how it resolves or how it's spelled. And I doubt that Willie spells these things.

[N.B. I am not a nerd. That's just the way it is with dim7 chords.]

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