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I've known this (in my brain) for ages, but I'm only just starting to *feel* that nearly all Flamenco (except for things like Farruca etc) can be counted in 2's or 3's at the same time. I feel that this is what is giving all the rhythms that rhythmic "ambiguity". (That, and the fact that Flamencos will never choose to accent an "on" beat when there's a handy "off" beat available! LOL!) It actually leads into Bulerias turning into Tangos and turning into Fandangos or even Soleares. Actually Bulerias is tremendously close to Siguiriyas depending on how you feel it and care to pace it. I know it sounds simple, and all you musician guys will explain it to me in time signatures etc. which I don't understand (or care to understand LOL!)
This is a tremendous music! All so related and yet so apart.
You are an angel and lo and behold I find you here!!! Thanks again for letting me have the flamenco master again.
I think what you are refering to is a polyrhythm, where there are two rhythms going at once, like a two over a three, which is a Rumba pattern etc.. and yes they merger into each other, like in African drumming they have polyrythms going all the time.
to work out a polyrythm for a 2 over a 3 you times 2x3=6 and then write out the pulses 2 over three rhythm
C C C This is the two pulse 1 2 3 4 5 6 C C This is the Three pulse 1 2 3 4 5 6
One way to play it is using each hand (open or closed depending on the sound you want) and clapping them on your legs, like left hand does the two pulse on the left leg, and the right hand does the 3 pulse on the right leg.
Usually open hand on the pulse and closed hand on the count,
Its just that I saw the pictures on your web site and it looks like you are a luthier, and what beautiful pictures of the guitar being made. I have a hand made guitar and I have the uttermost respect for the guitar maker that is all.
Ah, I just love the smell I just hope to finish one, one day. The humidity in the UK is a serious issue, much overlooked by amateurs like me - and the hours involved. It's all on hold for a while but I'll be back soon enough.
There are a few serious luthiers on this forum that pop by now and again. Stick around.
Hi Grant, Welcome to the Forum amigo! Yeah, the two's over three's thing invades a lot of Flamenco. It's difficult to get, a bit like patting your head and rubbing your tummy at the same time...only more difficult! LOL! Thanks again!
Which piece is it?lol its been a long time since i've updated that website, must get round to it as it was my first attempt, and if not a bit presumptious of me to call myself a flamenco guitarist, but hey what the heck, we can only try and do our best.
Thanks for the compliment Patrik us musos love compliments lol