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flybynight
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 RE: Parrilla de Jerez (in reply to flybynight)
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Great stuff.. thanks for explaining that, and showing it all with Siguirillas links, to help spell it out.
The Manuel/Moraito connection is really clear, even to my ears.
As a noobie, it's a fantastic journey going back in time to understand how all these influences fit together. Like most, I started being blown away with Paco etc., but this is fabby stuff, and I'm getting into Cante much more now.
Eventually getting back to the roots of it all. Start at the end, and end at the beginning. Not the easiest way, but, hey..
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Date Feb. 3 2010 23:34:40
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kozz
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From: Eindhoven NL
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RE: Parrilla de Jerez (in reply to chapman_g)
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I really really like Parilla accompaniment too, but my favorite accompanist is Paco Cepero his recordings with Tio El Borrico, Manuel Soto Sordera, Rancapino, La Perla, el Turronero are the greatest I have heard.
You are absolutely right. Its nonesense to say one is the best, ofcourse Cepero, Manuel Morao, Perico el del Lunar etc are all great, and they all have their personal aire.
There was a time that I thougth that flamenco was rumbas and pdl, and I never took the opportunity to look further untill by mistake I saw this clip, and then the whole flamenco addiction started, and a beautifull world opened form me.
http://www.youtube.com/user/kozzekozz#p/u/2/RzFPY5GGE9w
First I was completely overwhelmed by La Paquera's voice and started searchin who the guitarist was....so I am a litle bit biased.
La Parilla is to me like for many people pdl is.
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Date Feb. 20 2010 0:01:48
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kozz
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From: Eindhoven NL
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RE: Parrilla de Jerez (in reply to chapman_g)
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Kozz,
Like you I was not so into the cante in the very beginning, and I had a similar experience like what you had with Paquera and Parilla with one of the other favorites for accompaniment Manuel Morao with Perla de Cadiz, and like you after that is when I really started to get into flamenco.
Hee Chapman,
I was not into flamenco at all before Paquara.
But I follow you totally. I like Parilla for his emotional playing, Cepero for his funky ass groove, Javier Molina for his almost unfollowing playing etc.
You can't pinpoint one as your favourite.
Every gitarist has his speciality, now and in the old days.
That's what I believe also a reason why singers feel more comfartable with one guitarist then the other, and the other way around ofcourse.
IMO if one is not open minded to flamenco he/she will miss a lot.
In the beginning I refused to listen to the modern flamenco, not anymore, there's some great stuff...its just another lessons learned.
@Deniz
I don't care what other people think or not, I'll just have to respect that, but you can't argue taste. I follow my path on my own, sometimes I like something, sometimes not....but years later it can be totally the opposite.
But I agree, it is a re-occuring thing 
By the way, what is "myopic"?
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Date Feb. 20 2010 5:07:44
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Ricardo
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From: Washington DC
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RE: Parrilla de Jerez (in reply to orsonw)
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I have often stated that recorded flamenco nowadays does not represent well the state of cante in spain. I understand the reason was because neither artists nor producers want to record the same old tradtional stuff that camaron or Caracol Terremoto, or whoever did so much better many years ago. And artists themselves don't want to re record their stuff if they recorded their first album already that has everything they do.
My solution to this problem is to get company going that only records LIVE flamenco, primarily all the cante festivals. Let the artists help edit so they don't get miss represented, but just keep pumping it out every year. Again alot of same ol stuff, but you get that live energy missing from studios, and some improvisational jems and vibe from the audience etc.
I could hear bootlegs of Tomatito playing in bars for singers all day long, and prefer it to another solo disc for example. So a disc could be ONE guitarist with a bunch of different singers that he played for THAT year, or whatever, rather then simply a singer on tour. Or both ideas could work, but enough this trying to do something different, just to be different.
Ricardo
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Date Feb. 21 2010 14:09:18
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