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RE: OK, florian, i f*cking did it, alright?!
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Graham_B
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RE: OK, florian, i f*cking did it, a... (in reply to at_leo_87)
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break angle definitely increased, no doubt about that. has the tone improved because of this? well, im not too sure because i changed a bunch of other things on my guitar at the same time so i dont know what is doing what. my guitar sounds waaaay better than before, i'll tell you that much. I tried an interesting little experiment earlier. I needed to re-string an classical guitar and, inspired by this thread, I wanted to see if it was worthwhile converting to a 12 hole bridge. First I had Louis_B play the instrument, then photographed the bridge to illustrate the original string break angle Then, using my very basic woodworking skills, I fabricated a tie-off block, knotted the original strings and re-tensioned. The result was photographed and you can see the string break angle has increased markedly. When played there was a noticable increase in volume, especially the trebles. I was really surprised at the difference - I suspect luthiers won't be
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Date Sep. 6 2009 13:08:36
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at_leo_87
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jeesh, gotta change the title. 12 ho... (in reply to Graham_B)
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When played there was a noticable increase in volume, especially the trebles. I was really surprised at the difference - I suspect luthiers won't be ah-ha. so it's not in my head! i imagine a 12 hole conversion would be difficult especially if you dont have the right tools. that's why i let a repair guy do it for me. i forgot to ask him how he did it. anyways, if you dont feel like doing a twelve hole conversion or if you're scared you're going to mess up try making something like this. it's based off of your idea but with three holes for each string, so you can tie it like a 12 hole bridge and forget about knots. i've had knots slip before. ouch. woops, i numbered it wrong. string goes from bridge to hole 1, then to hole 3, around back to hole 2 then under itself between 1 and 3. wrapped twice for the g and b string, three time for the high e. and hole number 2 can be on the left side for the bass strings for a symmetrical look. and make it thinner, like bridge saddle thin. and maybe carve out a little gap in the back so the strings will have a place to sit in and the tie off block can sit flush up against the bridge.
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Date Sep. 7 2009 0:32:18
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RE: OK, florian, i f*cking did it, a... (in reply to at_leo_87)
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hehe yes. There can be alot of talking on the internet, pro and contra. Just do it yourself, get involved in it, or dont say anything ;). This is not even a field where science is done, so acting as if there was evidence speaking against, or in favor of an effect, is speculation. We are all no scientists on guitar acoustics (although luthiers would come closest to this), but we can share our experiences in what we think makes the guitar a better instrument.
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