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Ailsa

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From: South East England

**Tangos Beginners' Challenge here!!**

Here it is at last after much debate - this is THE thread for Tangos Beginners' Challenge! Any changes or additional info will be posted here at the top of this thread.

TAB:
http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=110306&p=1&tmode=1&smode=1

VIDEO:

SLOWED DOWN:

LOOPS:
http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=110362&p=1&tmode=1&smode=1

CAPO/CEJILLA:
on 2nd fret please

DEADLINE: end of Monday 31st August, midnight UK time, 7pm Anthony's time

ADMIN: email your mp3s to at_leo_87 (Anthony): at_leo_87@yahoo.com

JUDGES:
ToddK
deteresa1
Matic
duende
xirdneH_imiJ
Gabe (edgar884)

CHALLENGERS:
Ailsa
domzo
davidido
Jenny
bassam_m
NeZ
Louis_B
cathulu
sorin popovici
acziraky

THE PRIZE!!

2 Skype lessons from ToddK, the guitar wizard himself!!

Go forth and practice!!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 15 2009 11:22:32

kozz

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From: Eindhoven NL

RE: **Tangos Beginners' Challenge he... (in reply to Ailsa)

Thanxz Ailsa, 31st it is!

Hee Ramzi, nice

stretching in the beginning, succes y'áll!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 15 2009 11:50:58

rombsix

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RE: **Tangos Beginners' Challenge he... (in reply to kozz)

Stretching rules!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 15 2009 12:00:44

kozz

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RE: **Tangos Beginners' Challenge he... (in reply to rombsix)

Hopefully...any tips?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 15 2009 12:12:11

rombsix

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From: Beirut, Lebanon

RE: **Tangos Beginners' Challenge he... (in reply to kozz)

Warm up, go slow, and if you've got any specific questions, I'm good to go!

(just had to make that last bit rhyme

)

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 15 2009 15:37:46

cathulu

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From: Vancouver, Canukistan

RE: **Tangos Beginners' Challenge he... (in reply to Ailsa)

Hey, have I been upgraded to the intermediate challenge already? Been there done that!

Don't forget me!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 15 2009 18:27:51

polishcomedy

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Joined: Feb. 7 2009
From: Orlando

RE: **Tangos Beginners' Challenge he... (in reply to Ailsa)

Can I still get in the challenge? Thanks!!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 15 2009 19:26:44

HolyEvil

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From: Sydney, Australia

RE: **Tangos Beginners' Challenge he... (in reply to Ailsa)

just a note to say that the gp5 version of the tab is not working.

cheers

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 15 2009 19:47:09

Ailsa

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From: South East England

RE: **Tangos Beginners' Challenge he... (in reply to cathulu)

Sorry cathulu - you are on now. You too polishcomedy.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 15 2009 23:25:57

bassam_m

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Joined: Dec. 8 2007
From: Beirut, Lebanon

RE: **Tangos Beginners' Challenge he... (in reply to Ailsa)

Wow the deadline is August 31!!!! Plenty of time to practice. Thanks for this wonderful competition!!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 16 2009 2:00:18

Stu

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Joined: Jan. 30 2007
From: London (the South of it), England

RE: **Tangos Beginners' Challenge he... (in reply to bassam_m)

yeah, the GP5 tab doesnt work, dont know how to get it to work either, if anyone wants it pm me and well sort it out!!

Stu

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 16 2009 2:15:02

Jenny

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From: Oxford, UK

RE: **Tangos Beginners' Challenge he... (in reply to Ailsa)

Hola,

Well, back to important things... How are people doing with the challenge?

I've got the notes now, but recorded myself playing it yesterday and it sounded b***dy awful. It's amazing how different my playing sounds in my head to how I actually sound in reality!

Jenny

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 17 2009 5:53:10

kozz

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From: Eindhoven NL

RE: **Tangos Beginners' Challenge he... (in reply to Jenny)

quote:

I've got the notes now, but recorded myself playing it yesterday and it sounded b***dy awful. It's amazing how different my playing sounds in my head to how I actually sound in reality!

Huh????? Are you serious Jenny? Can you already play the whole piece?
I've got some serious problems getting that ringfiinger down, not quite in control yet...

In my head I am playing the whole piece fluently, but in reality....

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 17 2009 6:14:03

Jenny

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From: Oxford, UK

RE: **Tangos Beginners' Challenge he... (in reply to kozz)

Ok, let me be more specific...

I know where most of the notes SHOULD be...

but can't make any of them sound ok yet. Glad we've got ages to work on it!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 17 2009 8:00:09

El_flaco

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Joined: Jan. 28 2009
From: Pacifica, CA-US

RE: **Tangos Beginners' Challenge he... (in reply to Ailsa)

I'm in as well.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 17 2009 12:19:23

Ailsa

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RE: **Tangos Beginners' Challenge he... (in reply to El_flaco)

Bienvenido chico!!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 17 2009 12:23:31

acziraky

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RE: **Tangos Beginners' Challenge he... (in reply to Ailsa)

I would like to give the challenge a try too! If its not too late...

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 18 2009 4:52:03

Ailsa

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RE: **Tangos Beginners' Challenge he... (in reply to acziraky)

You're on the list. Definitely not too late - loads of time..... relax..... chill....... and do some practice too

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 18 2009 5:19:35

El_flaco

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From: Pacifica, CA-US

RE: **Tangos Beginners' Challenge he... (in reply to Ailsa)

Hey Muchacha!!!!!

Another challenge, this'll be fun.

Aug 31st. Yes!!!! maybe this time I can play it up to speed.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 18 2009 13:46:18

cathulu

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Joined: Dec. 15 2006
From: Vancouver, Canukistan

RE: **Tangos Beginners' Challenge he... (in reply to El_flaco)

Hey, I'm lovin this challenge! Which loop we gonna use? I like Anders loop, you can always speed it up if necessary... we should all use the same one?

Also a bump to get the other crap down the page as quickly as possible.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 19 2009 15:14:26

HemeolaMan

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From: Chicago

RE: **Tangos Beginners' Challenge he... (in reply to Ailsa)

the gp5 does work. just copy the download link that pops up in the little window.

then open gp5 and go to "open" then paste the link in the space and hit open. it will then open it and save in a temp folder in your browser directory somewhere. you can save it somewhere else

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 19 2009 22:11:50

Ailsa

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RE: **Tangos Beginners' Challenge he... (in reply to cathulu)

quote:

ORIGINAL: cathulu

Hey, I'm lovin this challenge!

It's great isn't it? As soon as Ramzi uploaded it onto youtube it was straight into my favourites!

Re loop: my view would be whatever you feel complements your playing best. I don't really care about speed - a slower tangos can still be a groovy tangos!

Any other views?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 20 2009 1:23:07

cathulu

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RE: **Tangos Beginners' Challenge he... (in reply to Ailsa)

Yes, I think a slow tangos sounds pretty cool, and the 130 bpm is not to bad for that... or even slower to suit our skill set.

Regarding the videos, very kind of Ramzi to upload the slow one. I notice even Ramzi can improve his fingering efficiency, for example he removes the third finger on the F note before the 16th note ligados on the third page of the tabs, and then has to put it back. So we should leave it on, no need to take it off.

That is something for us beginners to really work on, our fingering efficiency. Good habits reinforced will pay off in the end!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 20 2009 11:02:16

Ailsa

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RE: **Tangos Beginners' Challenge he... (in reply to Ailsa)

OK people, hope you haven't forgotten about this -
deadline 8 weeks tomorrow !!

I've been listening to get it in my head first and now have started to learn where the notes are. I know the first falseta now (though I can only play it at the speed of Ramzi's slow demo!

) I'm not finding the stretches too bad but my barres are just %$£*)&!!! Just have to hope that after 8 weeks practise they will be better....

Keep practising everyone

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 5 2009 2:27:21

cathulu

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RE: **Tangos Beginners' Challenge he... (in reply to Ailsa)

Back from holidays and now it is time to attack!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 10 2009 15:47:08

ARJR

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RE: **Tangos Beginners' Challenge he... (in reply to Ailsa)

I might sound really dumb here but I was wondering if I could enter the challenge.

I don't even play flamenco but I've played classical on and off for about 9 years.

Would I be too advanced? I would just like a critique of my playing, that's the only reason why I would enter.

Don't have time to really get into flamenco but you guys have a lot of good
things going on here and a lot of talent as well. So some feedback from the judges
would be awesome.

Angelo

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 10 2009 18:07:13

cathulu

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RE: **Tangos Beginners' Challenge he... (in reply to ARJR)

My feeling is you should hang around for a while first, see if you really want to get involved with Flamenco. You don't sound that interested to be honest, and would just poach the judges time.

Judging is work believe it or not, and without judges and interest these challenges will fade away imho. So we should not abuse their good graciousness.

So, ask yourself are you really willing to commit to this forum, if you are just jumping in for some feedback on your playing and then will walk, really why do you want to join in?

Just my opinion, Ailsa has final call as she organized the challenge...

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 10 2009 21:07:44

ARJR

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RE: **Tangos Beginners' Challenge he... (in reply to cathulu)

I just wanted a reason to start practicing again and this seemed like a good idea.

I don't want to waste anyones time so if there are to many participants
I'll wait till I can contribute more.

I would post more but I don't really no squat about flamenco.
So far this forum has been my only resource for flamenco.

Angelo

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 10 2009 22:03:27

Ailsa

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RE: **Tangos Beginners' Challenge he... (in reply to ARJR)

Hi Angelo, well the Foro is completely open and we don't generally turn anyone away. At the classes I organise we've got guitarists who play classical, blues, bossa nova, you name it! So that doesn't really matter. And while you might find the notes easy I don't think you would be too advanced in terms of getting the right flamenco feel. That takes years!!

On the other hand the challenge is really for people working at flamenco. And cathulu is right - it's hard work for the judges.

But if you just want a critique of your playing, you can get that for free anytime! The audio and video uploads section is full of people just showing what they are working on and people will make helpful comments on how to improve.

So my suggestion is that you work on a piece of flamenco - the tangos challenge if you like - and upload it asking for comments.

Does that sound reasonable? I don't want to turn away someone that is keen, but also want to make the challenge work well for everyone.

Best

Ailsa

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 11 2009 1:33:21

ARJR

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RE: **Tangos Beginners' Challenge he... (in reply to Ailsa)

"So my suggestion is that you work on a piece of flamenco - the tangos challenge if you like - and upload it asking for comments."

That sounds fair, I'll try the tangos and I'll upload my version after the challenge is done.

Thank you,

Angelo

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 11 2009 8:41:35