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andresito
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From: New Holland
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 RE: when pigs fly (or when their vir... (in reply to Florian)
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Interesting point(s) in an Australian newspaper -
"...The disparity between the impacts of threats and the panic they cause is remarkable. Even globally, with the exception of terrorism or, rather, the conflicts it has triggered, the tolls are strikingly small by comparison to the threats that are most likely to kill us.
SARS killed 9.6 per cent of those infected, but the threat that paralysed the world killed no more than 774 people, most of them in China, where authorities were slow to react. Then came bird flu, which since 2003 has caused 421 confirmed human cases with 257 deaths. Again, limited infectiousness meant the deaths were confined to a few countries. Now swine flu is thought to have killed 159 people out of a suspected 2498 cases in Mexico, although the World Health Organisation yesterday cautioned that only seven deaths and 79 cases were confirmed.
Mexico is a country of great inequality, with high rates of malnutrition and diabetes in a crowded population, making its people highly vulnerable. In the neighbouring US, which has 64 confirmed cases and hundreds suspected, no one has died yet. One cannot discount the risk of a pandemic, and people's fear of the unknown is powerful."
Source: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/fears-distorting-reality-20090429-ancz.html
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Date May 1 2009 2:27:23
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Pimientito
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From: Marbella
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RE: when pigs fly (or when their vir... (in reply to andresito)
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Mexico is a country of great inequality, with high rates of malnutrition and diabetes in a crowded population, making its people highly vulnerable. In the neighbouring US, which has 64 confirmed cases and hundreds suspected, no one has died yet.
It is scary a scary prospect that a virus could mutate and wipe most of us out but I'm sure it wont be influenza. Influenza kills imunospressed and elderly patients so its not surprising that mortality would be higher in a mexican ghetto than in the United States.
36,000 people die of influenza every year in the United states alone and this does not make the news. This is an average number so anything below 50,000 flu related deaths is completely normal. Also the virus mutates every couple of years so actually every outbreak is a "new strain " of flu. Flu does jump from species to species and animal flus can be caught by humans. Your dog can also catch your cold. This is hardly newsworthy information. Its not a new phenomena and has been happening for as long as people have been around. The virus also mutates back to less aggressive forms spontanously which is why most potential pandemics inexplicably die out.
The media has blown this up out of all proportion. If there were 100,000 reported deaths so far I would start to get more worried but until then eat I suggest eating lots of fruit and veg, sleep at least 7 hours a night, Wash your hands regularly, stay at home if you feel sick, get a flu vaccination if you are elderly or have a chronic respiritory problem and follow Rons rigid drinking regime.
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Date May 2 2009 4:00:25
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Doitsujin
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RE: when pigs fly (or when their vir... (in reply to henrym3483)
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Doit, what's your take on the whole scare? You study this stuff, right?
Well,..I'm not specialized in virology... but something I can tell you for sure. Don´t trust the newspapers and TV-news. There are mostly working idiots who are experts in preparing coffee and inventing stories, but they have no knowledge about science at all.... When I watch news or movies..more than 90% of the "science-work" which is shown there and talked about is ****. So, just don't trust them..
IMO you can protect yourself against any flu. Wear a mask as you maybe saw in reports about japan... And no,..they don't wear these masks because the air in the city is so dirty. They wear it when they are ill, to protect the other people from their own e.g.flu. IMO, thats a good thing. You could also wear such masks when the swine flu spreads more.....
Here in my country these dumb idiots cough you in the face when you are sitting next to them in the train.
You can protect yourself with eating vegetables, sleeping enough, don't get cold after sweating and so on.... And if there is the first sunbeam in the year (also if it is still 10 degrees... they all run around in shorts and T-shirts....WTF? Blame on these idiots. Well,.. you can also easily protect yourself against HIV. But there are too many dumb people in the world.... as we know... it doesn't really work for people with an average IQ as the stats say.
So, you can prepare yourself against the flu (the swine flu is a bit special..but still a flu). Its on you to do that. And if you go to areas where infected people have been spotted,..and you know that...(e.g. doing holyday in mexico and ignoring the flu) than I hope you die due to the flu. This stupidness have to be punished IMO.
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He sweared he cut himself while cutting monkey meat.. hahaha... The story went on and became much funnier when the infected ran into the jungle to meet the chimpanzee whom he "didn't poke in the ass.. (of course man,..of course..) And so on.... 
I did see the bit and it was funny though. 
i really got to turn on the news sometimes.. 
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!! me too ! i hope you die a horrible and painful death you infidel swine eating ......