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Ron.M

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RE: Flamenco-lessons.com turns 2 - A... (in reply to Doitsujin)

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Ron, was that a cite from Don-King?

It was meant to be a rap version of Muhammud Ali's great speel.

"Hey...the guy's so SLOW man.....he's like THE MUMMY...and meantime I'm just gonna be dancin' and hittin'....."

cheers,

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Florian

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RE: Flamenco-lessons.com turns 2 - A... (in reply to Ron.M)

lol...nah i am just playing along..anyone can take this

respect to everysingle one entering this, i just look foward to adding this falseta to my bulerias and the motivation of healthy competition

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at_leo_87

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RE: Flamenco-lessons.com turns 2 - A... (in reply to Ron.M)

HEY
where can i place bets?!

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Ron.M

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RE: Flamenco-lessons.com turns 2 - A... (in reply to at_leo_87)

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HEY
where can i place bets?!

I think Mark2 is running a book.
But I'm not sure...

cheers,

Ron

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 9 2009 13:12:24

JasonMcGuire

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RE: Flamenco-lessons.com turns 2 - A... (in reply to Ron.M)

I just might be able to sway the judge in the favor of my bets.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 9 2009 13:14:55

Doitsujin

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RE: Flamenco-lessons.com turns 2 - A... (in reply to Florian)

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original: DonS
BTW, I never said I will be learning this falseta LOL!

Than you are a coward who just talks big. And you can sleep well?
Be a man and join

If you join and play well,.. you will have my greatest respect.

To be honest, I don't need any challenger. I would do the challenge completely alone, too. It´s good for my playing and I take the chance.

quote:

It was meant to be a rap version of Muhammud Ali's great speel.

"Hey...the guy's so SLOW man.....he's like THE MUMMY...and meantime I'm just gonna be dancin' and hittin'....."

Hahahaha.. Yes, he was a great boxer and actor.

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Ron.M

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RE: Flamenco-lessons.com turns 2 - A... (in reply to Doitsujin)

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Be a man and join If you join and play well,.. you will have my greatest respect.

To be honest, I don't need any challenger. I would do the challenge completely alone, too. It´s good for my playing and I take the chance.

This indeed sounds like "The Rumble In The Jungle".

Respect Doit!!

Love it!!!

Any challengers?

Ricardo? ToddK? etc...etc...?

(Mark2...can you email me the latest odds please....)

cheers,

Ron

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 9 2009 13:28:27

JasonMcGuire

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RE: Flamenco-lessons.com turns 2 - A... (in reply to Ron.M)

Ricardo and ToddK would probably play the falseta better than me, in which case they would be disqualified immediately

I would love to hear them, but I bet they are both pretty busy.....

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srshea

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RE: Flamenco-lessons.com turns 2 - A... (in reply to JasonMcGuire)

Jason, that detailed explanation vid is fantastic. I have no real hope of making even a half serious attempt at the falsta, but this really breaks it down in a way that makes it very approachable and accessible, even if it’s way, way over my head. So, I think I’ll mess around with trying to learn a compas or two, at my own slow pace, just for the sake of the exercise…..

And since I’M not entering the challenge, I get to talk all the trash I want without worrying about having to back it up!

“I’ll knock him on his ass in the third compas! Ooooooo, I’m a bad man! I don’t have a mark on my golpeador! I’m pretty!” And so on……(and you gotta mispronounce compas for that rhyme to work...)

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Florian

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RE: Flamenco-lessons.com turns 2 - A... (in reply to DonS)

Jesus crist !! 217 mbs file

i think it will be faster to fly to america and listen to you giving me the detailed information over coffe, visit graceland and come back..

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JasonMcGuire

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RE: Flamenco-lessons.com turns 2 - A... (in reply to srshea)

Thats great srshea. I think those who make the attempt even if they don't intend to enter a video will be surprised. Like I said before, I am here to coach those that need help. Upload an mp3 if you can't do a video and I will try and help and I am sure the other "heavyweight contenders" here will help too. Here is a suggestion..... write out the order of the first 20 notes or so on some scratch paper. Slowly practice going from one note to the next until you have those memorized, then try with the slow video to insert them into rhythm. If you need to slow down the "slow video" even more you can by control+click(on a Mac) or alt+click(on a windows) PC on the rewind/fast forward buttons and gently slide the "hidden" control slider slightly to the right. Here is a video to demonstrate the trick...

Slow Down Trick

For those of you on 64 bit Vista PC systems, the video controls are not visible on Quicktime Videos but they are functional if you click in the area where the controls should appear. I hope they update that soon.

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JasonMcGuire

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RE: Flamenco-lessons.com turns 2 - A... (in reply to Florian)

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ORIGINAL: Florian

Jesus crist !! 217 mbs file i think it will be faster to fly to america and listen to you giving me the detailed information over coffe, visit graceland and come back..

If not faster, it be a lot more fun. Graceland lol ... an Elvis fan?

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Florian

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RE: Flamenco-lessons.com turns 2 - A... (in reply to JasonMcGuire)

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an Elvis fan?

lol no more no less than the usual i guess...just sounds like the type of thing tourists would visit..

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srshea

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RE: Flamenco-lessons.com turns 2 - A... (in reply to JasonMcGuire)

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Here is a suggestion..... write out the order of the first 20 notes or so on some scratch paper. Slowly practice going from one note to the next until you have those memorized, then try with the slow video to insert them into rhythm.

That’s great advice, and pretty much what I’m already doing with some other falsetas! I had a lesson on Friday and my teacher gave me two falsetas- a relatively simple Tomatito, and a Jerezy thing of unknown origin. They’re both pretty straightforward and basic, almost all thumb and not too fast, but it’s still a handful for me. So I’m starting out playing each note, each half-beat , one at a time, super slow. No discernable compas or rhythm, just the notes played one by one. So now I’ll look into that slowdowner too……

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Mark2

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RE: Flamenco-lessons.com turns 2 - A... (in reply to Ron.M)

It seems I could do ok as a bookie around here with all the challenges going on..........Jason's is tough to call because we don't know who all the competitors are. Doit is seriously sandbaggin(us oldtime forum guys still remember that alegrias he uploaded), but I still have him as a favorite in the Tomatito challenge. I learned the intro and that tune is no joke. To play it clean at tempo by June, I'd have to quit my job, then I'd still probably lose, and be homeless with no capo, and no internet access to watch Jason's lessons. I think I'll just fry up some pop corn and watch all the action.

I've got quite a few monster falsetas from Jason too-and they are all over ten years old or so. There's a solea one that I had to send my wife and kids away for the whole weekend to get under my fingers. Since Jason musta forgotten them by now I guess that's a pretty valuable cache of assets......maybe this internet thingy will pay off yet :-)

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Florian

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RE: Flamenco-lessons.com turns 2 - A... (in reply to Mark2)

hey any chance some generous soul with a fast connection can upload the comments videos on youtube ( not necesarely the very big one) just the 3rd and 4th file? i downloaded so many diff versions of quicktime i still cant play em..all i can play is the normal speed and slow videos....i dont mind about the quality...poor quality is fine

pretty please ?

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JasonMcGuire

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RE: Flamenco-lessons.com turns 2 - A... (in reply to Florian)

I will upload them to my YouTube account.... JasonMcGuireFlamenco.
Check in a hour or so...

Martin..... c'mon. I'll give you nice vintage Dunlop capo with just a little bit of fraying if you end up on the street again as a result of my falseta. I couldn't leave a bro without a capo.

DonS says its a beginners falseta so it must be easy right.

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Anders Eliasson

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RE: Flamenco-lessons.com turns 2 - A... (in reply to Doitsujin)

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Till now nobody entered the challenge whose playing really scares me.

Didn´t I tell you that I was in? better go practice Doitsy. My killer pulgar is going to cut you into pieces.

Well..hmmm. The falseta has its things. Not so much tecnically. Yes, its advanced and so, but it can be done. The problem is all the sincopations and fitting them into compás. Thats going to be a real challenge for me, especially because I mostly play trad stuff, but its a very good way to open up my (and others) mind to some more modern phrasing and thats why I´m in. Also because I dont think I´ll ever find a better instructional video and this challenge thing is quite fun. And btw... I know perfectly well that I´m not going to win. If I can do a decent attempt in compás and with a good bulerias feel, I´ll be happy. Untill now, it still costs me a lot to do palmas to the slow track.

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Matic

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RE: Flamenco-lessons.com turns 2 - A... (in reply to JasonMcGuire)

Can these videos be downloaded to my disk?
It's not really convenient having to wait for them to stream (especially the big one) every time.

Also

, would you mind making an mp3 file, Jason, so I could put it on my iPod and listen to it when away from my guitar?

Thanks
Matic

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Ailsa

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RE: Flamenco-lessons.com turns 2 - A... (in reply to Matic)

Hi Matic,

If Jason isn't able to make an MP3 you can use Audacity or OP2D to extract the sound. I don't know if Audacity is free to download but OP2D certainly is.

A

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domzo

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RE: Flamenco-lessons.com turns 2 - A... (in reply to Matic)

Matic, I downloaded it (thanks Jason) using a program called "wget" on linux.

You can get the same program here for windows:
http://dfn.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/gnuwin32/wget-1.11.4-1-setup.exe

On linux, you use it at the command line so it will probably be similar in windows (although I've not tried it).
So install it, then go to Start/Run and you should get a command line, then type:

wget.exe http://linktojasonsvideo

or maybe C:\Program _Files whatever \wget.exe http://linktojasonsvideo

And then it will download the file.

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Matic

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RE: Flamenco-lessons.com turns 2 - A... (in reply to Ailsa)

Hey,Ailsa.
But I would need to download the videos first to extract an mp3, no?
Matic

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domzo

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RE: Flamenco-lessons.com turns 2 - A... (in reply to Ron.M)

or maybe you can right click and do save as?

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Ailsa

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RE: Flamenco-lessons.com turns 2 - A... (in reply to Matic)

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ORIGINAL: Matic

Hey,Ailsa.
But I would need to download the videos first to extract an mp3, no?
Matic

No you just play them, and the program records whatever is going through your sound card.

So no playing 3rd-person shooting video games at the same time

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Ron.M

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RE: Flamenco-lessons.com turns 2 - A... (in reply to Florian)

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Jesus crist !! 217 mbs file

About 15 years ago that used to be the size of the whole Internet!

cheers,

Ron

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Doitsujin

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RE: Flamenco-lessons.com turns 2 - A... (in reply to Ron.M)

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About 15 years ago that used to be the size of the whole Internet!

LOL!

I also always wondered how they made it to the moon with the support of computers which were slower than a C64.....
load ...... fly to moon ..... ,8,1 ENTER

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Arash

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RE: Flamenco-lessons.com turns 2 - A... (in reply to Matic)

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ORIGINAL: Matic

Can these videos be downloaded to my disk?
It's not really convenient having to wait for them to stream (especially the big one) every time.

Well, if you just click on the file with the left mouse button, then you have to wait for the stream.
But if you click with the right mouse button and use the "save as....." function, then you can download the file first, and afterwards play it with your Media player (Videolan, Quicktime, etc....) locally on your PC.

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Arash

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RE: Flamenco-lessons.com turns 2 - A... (in reply to Ron.M)

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ORIGINAL: Ron.M

quote:

Jesus crist !! 217 mbs file

About 15 years ago that used to be the size of the whole Internet!

cheers,

Ron

My Father still has an old computer in Iran with a size of 3 Refrigerators ......i think he bought it from his University at that time or something..........i think it is able to do some arithmetic like 2+2=4

However, after beeing worthless for a long time, it is now valuable as a collector item i guess...

quote:

LOL!
I also always wondered how they made it to the moon with the support of computers which were slower than a C64.....
load ...... fly to moon ..... ,8,1 ENTER

They used the 512KB Memory Expansion kit.
And i guess the whole Cold war was coordinated with an Attari playing "Raid over Moscow"

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Matic

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RE: Flamenco-lessons.com turns 2 - A... (in reply to Arash)

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Well, if you just click on the file with the left mouse button, then you have to wait for the stream.
But if you click with the right mouse button and use the "save as....." function, then you can download the file first, and afterwards play it with your Media player (Videolan, Quicktime, etc....) locally on your PC.

I did it now, thanks.
I had to do it on Windows Explorer, Firefox doesn't give me the option to save it.

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