Rasgueado?

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Ron.M -> Rasgueado? (Jun. 16 2004 20:26:44)
I have a look at the CG Forum from time to time, as there are some interesting posts and good people. Has anybody read the thread "Rasgueado"? I hate to be critical, but.... What a lot of total tosh and misinformation. Jeez, if there was ever a case for "Never believe anything you read on the Internet" LOL! Still, I guess it's just a good natured discussion group, but I sure hope no one is going to base their next six months of practise on this info! cheers Ron

Miguel de Maria -> RE: Rasgueado? (Jun. 16 2004 20:47:39)
Hey, I wrote something on that thread. I told one of those guys that "abanico" refers to Gipsy King strumming, and not to "Marote" rasgeaduos, but I got shot down, so I shut up. I also had to correct Thor's counting :)

Patrick -> RE: Rasgueado? (Jun. 16 2004 21:06:06)
Well, all those guys are wrong anyway. All true flamencos know you play them with e (up), a (down), m (up), i (down), p (up).

Patrick -> RE: Rasgueado? (Jun. 16 2004 21:12:08)
Oh, and we also have the variant that is P (up), P (down), P (up), P (down), i (up), m (down), that we refer to as "Alzaqueado".

Ron.M -> RE: Rasgueado? (Jun. 16 2004 21:27:15)
Funny you should mention that one Pat, I often use it when I'm totally drunk. [:D] Ron

Escribano -> RE: Rasgueado? (Jun. 17 2004 8:39:19)
quote: I told one of those guys that "abanico" refers to Gipsy King strumming, and not to "Marote" rasgeaduos I thought the abanico is "the fan" triplet, is this what you mean? p↑ a↓ p↓

Jon Boyes -> RE: Rasgueado? (Jun. 17 2004 9:06:24)
quote: ORIGINAL: Miguel de Maria Hey, I wrote something on that thread. I told one of those guys that "abanico" refers to Gipsy King strumming, and not to "Marote" rasgeaduos, but I got shot down, No, they are the same thing, Mike. Abanico=Marote=fan=triplet ras. Basically, a ras produced as a result of forearm rotation, commonly played in tiplets with P completing two out of the three strokes, although as usual there are many variations. The lack of conventions in flamenco often makes things (even more) confusing, yet you can find books or quality transcriptions where only one of these terms will be used exclusively, yet they are clearly talking about the same thing. Eg Juan Martin calls it the triplet ras, the guy who transcribed Tomatito's stuff for the Encuentro video calls it abanico. Jon

Miguel de Maria -> RE: Rasgueado? (Jun. 17 2004 15:37:06)
It's the last time I discuss terminology about flamenco. They can't even decide what flamenco is or is not... is Sevillanas or Farruca flamenco, what the heck is Solea por Bulerias...? You have to be a philologist to speak correctly about these things.

Ron.M -> RE: Rasgueado? (Jun. 17 2004 15:44:58)
"Fascinating Flamenco Philology" Don't try saying that to the wife across the breakfast table with a mouthful of Cornflakes! [:D][:D]

duende -> RE: Rasgueado? (Jun. 17 2004 16:41:15)
HEY! Could anybody please tell me where this CG place is at?!!?? Henrik (just curious)[:D]

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