Arash -> RE: to Florian and Ron, open letter. (Jan. 19 2009 6:09:35)
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Please everyone read carefully! and think about it without getting emotional: First of all, metaphorically speaking, i have to say that when 2 persons are "fighting" in a brawl, the most easiest thing for a 3rd Person is to side (directly or indirectly) with one of these persons and help him to knock out the other one and bring an end to the story. And the most difficult thing for this 3rd person is, to investigate all the facts and try to be fair und unbiased, even though he might personally like one person over the other one or even though one of these persons is his friend or...... But if he does this and holds a mirror up to BOTH Persons (and not only one person), people (and his friend) might look at him as a betrayer. But he gotta stand it if he wants to be at peace with himself! Thats one of my own principles and i am not going to betray my priciples here in the foro either, so followings: Those who are long enough here to follow the "carrier" of these 2 guys and Rons reactions, and those who followed "that actual thread", know exactly what i am talking about. 1) It is a fact that Flo and Todd dont like eachother and that they will always have problems here (anything else like "come on....shake hands and be friends" is just empty phrase and WONT REALLY HAPPEN. We know it, Flo knows it, Ron knows it, and Todd too!, and everyone else too). There might be a short break but sooner or later it will start again. 2) It is a fact that Todd wanted to provoke Florian indirectly (not mentioning Flos name) with his comment "this is all crap" 3) It is a fact that Ron can not BAN Todd for such a comment. THAT IS NOT HOW AN ADMIN CAN HANDLE A FORO. IT IS AGAINS FORUM RULES TO BAN SOMEBODY BECAUSE OF SUCH COMMENTS, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS AN INDIRECT PROVOCATION. 4) It is a fact that Florian misuses his popularity to blackmail Ron with comments like "ban me, i will not come back again", "why dont you ban Todd after 5 years of bully"...."i did so much for the foro and this is your answer?" .... and so on and waiting for people to say: "Dont go, come back..." etc. 5) It is a fact that Florian is an easy target for indirect teasings from Todd and that he cant stay cool and that he always blusters in to endless answers and a weird doom loop, even if Todd just says 3 Words like "this is crap". And at the end, Flo wants to hear the magic Words from Ron: "Ok Flo, i will ban Todd". Everything else Ron did, like deleteing threads to cool down everybody or saying things like:"Todd, please stop it", dont make Flo happy. 6) It is a fact that RON is in a very difficult situation because at the end, he is always the guilty one, not banning Todd. 7) It is a fact that there is no easy solution for the whole problem. EVERYBODY IS GUILTY AND NO ONE IS GUILTY. 8) It is a fact that many people enjoy such fights and buy popcorn and even add fuel to the fire to keep it burning. --- Please TODD and FLO Listen: 1) Todd, please, do it for the others (not for Flo), do it for RON or anybody you might like in the foro and dont provoke Florian (directly or INDIRECTLY) anymore. Even if you dont agree with Flo or think that Flo is doing something crap, do it for the others. 2) Flo, please, instead of forcing anybody to "remove the Todd problem", think about other solutions. No one can REMOVE him just because he is fighting with YOU since 5 years and just because YOU are one the best members contributing to a Forum. That is not how a democratic Forum works!
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