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solendogan -> Rasguedo Technique (Jan. 13 2009 19:21:27)

Hi,

I was wondering about the 3 finger rasguedo or index strokes

I always use index strokes or 3 finger rasguedo resting the thumb on 6th string or anchoring it
to get a bass sound
i just saw in Juan Martin's book

He suggests the 3 finger rasguedo to put the thumb resting on the rosetta of the guitar near the sound hole

i assume the reason is to get the sound of 6 strings
but we can anchor the thumb to get more bass sound

is this technique still in use?

what is its benefit?






[:D]



xirdneH_imiJ -> RE: Rasguedo Technique (Jan. 14 2009 8:38:00)

unless you want to sound the low E string, putting your thumb on it should be alright...but i'd think that it has more to do with hand size and strength plus accuracy...if you have a smaller, maybe less powerful hand, thumb on the string is definitely better, although i'm not convinced about the accuracy...but i guess it's just something that you can get used to, my experience is that my rasgueado gets messed up if it put my thumb on the E string, instead i always put it on the body, somewhere near the rosette, i can be more effective and accurate that way, but also the reason could be that i have relatively big hands with long fingers...
as most flamencos would say, go with whatever works for you, as long as you get the sound right, it really doesn't matter...

edit: i'm wondering if i misunderstood something [:D]



Ron.M -> RE: Rasguedo Technique (Jan. 14 2009 10:26:13)

Solendogan,
Rasgueados which involve the lower strings usually mean using the thumb as in p, a, m, i

Rasgueados which accent the higher strings (say..Jerez Bulerias), usually just use the fingers, with the thumb resting on the E string.

Generally the "fingers only" rasgueados suit the A tunes, since the lower open E is dissonant unless you hold an Aflat/Gsharp there... and the rolling "wrist" rasgueados suit the E or C tunes.

I'm talking about basic stuff here.

Is this what you are talking about?

cheers,

Ron



mark indigo -> RE: Rasguedo Technique (Jan. 14 2009 10:53:10)

i agree with Ron, basically if you don't want the 6th/E string to sound, such as when playing a chord of A or Bflat in Tangos/Bulerias etc, rest thumb on 6th string.... if you DO want the 6th/E string to sound, such as on an E or F chord in Solea or whatever (or an F# chord in Taranta, or a G# chord in Minera etc.), then rest the thumb against the soundboard above the 6th/E string, but NOT

quote:

on the rosetta of the guitar near the sound hole


it should really be no nearer the soundhole than half way between the soundhole and the bridge.... the nearer the bridge the better, it's more flamenco that way....



solendogan -> RE: Rasguedo Technique (Jan. 14 2009 20:58:16)

Thanks Mark and Ron

I just wonder resting on the rosetta
Because i find it hard to get my hand stable
i have long thumb nails
it slips easily

And it is harder to get down to the strings quickly
Let's say you do this rasgueado and then try to do a tremolo on high e string

By resting on thumb, i can anchor and get bass sound too

or thinking of a index stroke

the sound is so bass that almost not a good tone when i try anyway


thanks for all info
cheers



[:)]



mark indigo -> RE: Rasguedo Technique (Jan. 15 2009 11:04:53)

on second thoughts, i think the thumb tip/nail will probably be near the rosette if, like me, you have fairly big hands. i realised my thumb nail is nearly on the rosette even when my pinky is near the bridge



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