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n85ae -> Classical Pieces, Suggestions (Jan. 6 2009 7:42:06)

Any suggestions for some short classical pieces to practice. I'm interested in
trying something different (i.e. other than flamenco). Something that will blend
in nicely with a bag of flamenco stuff.

Thanks,
Jeff



Doitsujin -> RE: Classical Pieces, Suggestions (Jan. 6 2009 8:05:34)

Wrong forum. But maybe you could learn etude No.233 Good luck!



n85ae -> RE: Classical Pieces, Suggestions (Jan. 6 2009 8:11:43)

Duh, of course it's wrong forum! :) I was just interested in any suggestions
from my "good" friends here at the Flamenco forum.

Something that's complimentary to my Flamenco stuff.

Regards,
Jeff



Doitsujin -> RE: Classical Pieces, Suggestions (Jan. 6 2009 9:53:49)

Send ToddK a PM. I think hes a good adress for this. And a fast answer.



at_leo_87 -> RE: Classical Pieces, Suggestions (Jan. 6 2009 10:51:05)

you can learn asturias.

It's the song classical guitarist play when they don't know real flamenco. it's become the standard, for some reason.

they also try to throw in rasgueados which sound horrible. maybe you can show them how it's done.



Jim Opfer -> RE: Classical Pieces, Suggestions (Jan. 6 2009 10:59:03)

Ravel's Pavane pour une Infante Defunte. If you find some tab for it, pass it on.
It's the only classical piece I'd want to learn.



n85ae -> RE: Classical Pieces, Suggestions (Jan. 6 2009 11:24:22)

quote:

Pavane pour une Infante Defunte


Here's a tab of it:

http://www.classtab.org/jmrppuid.txt



ddk -> RE: Classical Pieces, Suggestions (Jan. 6 2009 12:47:00)

Recuerdos de la Alhambra is one of my favorite "non-Flamenco, Flamenco" pieces. Great practice for your tremelo and people seem to like the melody.

(Don't make fun now![;)])



val -> RE: Classical Pieces, Suggestions (Jan. 6 2009 12:54:19)

What's your level? How about a bit of Carcassi? You can work on your scales and arpeggios at the same time!
I have "The Guitar Music of Spain - Vol 1" - over 50 traditional pieces by Bartolome Calatayud, graded from simple to advanced. You can see the info and contents list here. Message me your email address if there's a piece on the list you fancy trying - I'll scan it for you



kovachian -> RE: Classical Pieces, Suggestions (Jan. 6 2009 14:33:03)

Anything by Agustin Barrios Mangore or Francisco Tarrega will lead you in the right direction. Some of their material is fairly difficult though, as will gladly demonstrate - speaking of which, La Cathedral happens to be one of my favorite pieces.



Pgh_flamenco -> RE: Classical Pieces, Suggestions (Jan. 6 2009 15:31:21)

quote:

Anything by Agustin Barrios Mangore or Francisco Tarrega will lead you in the right direction. Some of their material is fairly difficult though, as Berta Rojas will gladly demonstrate - speaking of which, La Cathedral happens to be one of my favorite pieces.


La Cathedral is a three song suite. Rojas plays Allegro Solemne. I really like Denis Azabagic's performance of this piece. It's on YouTube so here's a link to compare--Agustin Barrios: La Catedral, III. Allegro Solemne:




Jim Opfer -> RE: Classical Pieces, Suggestions (Jan. 6 2009 23:55:19)

quote:

Here's a tab of it:


Gracias!



Francisco -> RE: Classical Pieces, Suggestions (Jan. 7 2009 5:27:29)

1+ for Allegro Solemne.



kovachian -> RE: Classical Pieces, Suggestions (Jan. 7 2009 6:18:55)

Did I somehow imply that what Ms. Rojas played was the entire composition?



n85ae -> RE: Classical Pieces, Suggestions (Jan. 7 2009 6:40:21)

Thanks, those are some good ideas!

Regards,
Jeff



Pgh_flamenco -> RE: Classical Pieces, Suggestions (Jan. 7 2009 8:55:48)

quote:

Did I somehow imply that what Ms. Rojas played was the entire composition?


No, the title on YouTube did and I thought I would clarify in case people liked the song.



edguerin -> RE: Classical Pieces, Suggestions (Jan. 7 2009 9:30:30)

"Romance Antiguo" by Anonymous (Narciso Yepes played this as "Jeux interdits") isn't too difficult. I've uploaded the score and tab to the Tabs-section.
score&tab

For "modern classic" I find deFalla as played by PdL has a definite "flamenco" touch (PdL really let's you hear the origins of the music).



Ricardo -> RE: Classical Pieces, Suggestions (Jan. 7 2009 11:10:57)

Avoid classical composers that did not play guitar. Ie most all. it wouldn't fit along with your flamenco stuff, since flamenco is guitar music by guitar composers. Go for stuff like Villa Lobos, actual guitar music by a player. There are some others.

Ricardo



n85ae -> RE: Classical Pieces, Suggestions (Jan. 7 2009 11:53:20)

I took a stab at some Bach, but quit that pretty quick. :) Asturias I have
and that's kind of fun to play, but I only know a small part so far. I'll look
into Villa Lobos.

I occasionally try different stuff just for fun. The other day I was was
learning some Frank Gambale stuff.

Another day ... Tony Rice actually sounds pretty good on my Blanca ...

So far my favorite non-flamenco piece, that I can actually play ok, is
Jorge Morel's interpretation of Misionera, which is a really nice piece.

Thanks Again,
Jeff



HemeolaMan -> RE: Classical Pieces, Suggestions (Jan. 7 2009 12:32:48)

Here is a list of pieces I did at a recital. I did flamenco and classical pieces together, so they all fit

Ideas for Recital Pieces

Serenata Española F. Tarrega

Panaderos Flamencos Esteban de Sanlucar

Guajiras de Lucía Paco de Lucía

Alameda Vieja Moraito Chico

A Mandeli Pepe Habichuela

Asturias Isaac Albeniz

Canarios Gaspar Sanz

Etude no1 in Em Heitor Villa Lobos

Capricho Arabe F. Tarrega

Empress of the Pagodas M. Ravel

4th Suite Praludium J.S. Bach

Variations on a theme of Mozart Fernando Sor

Estudio 23 Sor
Fantasie villageoise Sor http://www.crgrecordings.com/Sor%20PDF%20Files/Op.%2052.pdf

Plainte: lamento Pereira

Agua e vinho Egeberto Gismonte

Dedicatoria Enrique Granados

Fantasia X Alonso Mudarra



Estevan -> RE: Classical Pieces, Suggestions (Jan. 7 2009 13:01:28)

quote:

Here is a list of pieces I did at a recital.


Wow, nice list Hem. Just one thing though - that first piece is by Joaquim Malats, the transcription is by Tarrega. (picky, picky).[;)]


p.s. here's the score:
http://www.delcamp.net/pdf/5_moderne/malats_serenata_espanola.pdf



Exitao -> RE: Classical Pieces, Suggestions (Jan. 7 2009 13:53:58)

Here's a good source for some classical tabs, including I think all the above-mentioned Albeniz and Romanza (the same one called "romance antiguo" elsewhere in this thread).

There are tef, mid and pdf files for pretty much all of them.

Dirk's Guitar Page:
http://dirk.meineke.free.fr/classical.html



HemeolaMan -> RE: Classical Pieces, Suggestions (Jan. 7 2009 20:14:43)

ps I have a ton of sheet music if anyone wants any



Bogdan1980 -> RE: Classical Pieces, Suggestions (Jan. 8 2009 6:01:46)

quote:

Avoid classical composers that did not play guitar. Ie most all. it wouldn't fit along with your flamenco stuff, since flamenco is guitar music by guitar composers. Go for stuff like Villa Lobos, actual guitar music by a player. There are some others.

Ricardo


I second that. The best music for classical guitar was written for guitar and not transcribed from compositions fof other instruments. Albeniz is beautiful but it shows that it was written for piano. In addition to play Albeniz properly takes years and proper classical training. Youtube is ripe with people playing Asturiaz but very few actually play it right. De Falla also wrote for piano and to do the pieces justice like Paco did you should be Paco.
La Vida Breve which is a genious composition is really a duet and loses a lot in solo performance. I have a sheet for it for solo guitar (which I can share) but my lack of technique and talent make playing that a complete joke.

Picking classical piece to learn is similar to picking apppropriate flamenco piece. If this you first attempts perhaps La Barrossa will not be the best thing to pick. In classical La Catedral is along the same lines. So is Aljambra and perhaps even Villa Lobos. I consider his compositions fairly difficult.

There are beautiful pieces by Sor that are not simple studies but are also very achievable and sound beautiful on guitar. There are also some by Aguado. Rondo in Am is great but fairly difficult as it develops. There are Ponce pieces written for Segovia specifically, those are great.

Bach is beautiful but there is nothing easy about that, especially in pieces with counterpoint.

Just my two cents
Bogdan



jonc -> RE: Classical Pieces, Suggestions (Jan. 8 2009 18:43:29)

Kimani Griffin plays music of Sergio Assad

I wish I could be more helpful and offer tabs for these beautiful movements of Aquarelle, but for the moment I'll leave that to the chance that more resourceful members of the foro are able to assist =]

cheers!

p.s. here's another video of the first movement played, Valseana



kovachian -> RE: Classical Pieces, Suggestions (Jan. 8 2009 19:58:36)

Bullpuckey. Play some Mangore and call it a day.



Wannabee -> RE: Classical Pieces, Suggestions (Jan. 11 2009 14:28:00)

You could try some of the South American stuff (other than Barrios).

Like this one:

Or this:

Or this:

or: (if you want to sing too)

or:


There are probably better versions of some of these, I just posted the first available.



Wannabee -> RE: Classical Pieces, Suggestions (Jan. 11 2009 14:34:02)

Ooops! one more:



This girl´s making me want to work on my classical stuff again... [;)][;)][;)][;)]



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