Guest -> camaron and vicente buleria (Jan. 1 2009 15:10:29)
I never knew that vicente amigo played for camaron. Its great but i think tomatitos playing suited camaron much more. How much did they perform together does anyone know?
btw check out the other videos from this guy on youtube he has heaps up. heres another camaron/vicente vid
WOW! Nice! Well, that shows.. the way they recorded made the sound so ugly and flat.... And I thought Tomatito had bad sound in past. hahha.. But Im 100% shure vicente played with his actual guitar and had exeactly the same sound like today. Just the sound-technicans had another opinion how to put the settings in past....
Im happy they learned till today how to set them better... [:-]
Great stuff. I was also unaware that Vicente had played with Camaron. For some reason I really prefer Vicente's playing early on like this. His more modern stuff sounds like the type of music you hear in the dentist's waiting room. (sorry Amigo fans[:o])
For some reason I really prefer Vicente's playing early on like this. His more modern stuff sounds like the type of music you hear in the dentist's waiting room. (sorry Amigo fans )
Dean
A stern criticism I completely agree with, Dean. I love and repeatedly listen to Vicente Amigo’s solo guitar Callejon de la Luna [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCM_bbxUaDQ&feature=related], Tio Arango, Morente, Cordoba. However, when it comes to certain more complex arrangements, I feel the same way and just cannot believe that he may really like or need to indulge into such poppish-rubbish. His solo guitar music has inspired many to appreciate and play flamenco. But the balance of his work (and neither Paco de Lucia nor Tomatito are an exception to it, with their flutes and violins and syncopated “electric bass”) in my humblest opinion, leaves a lot to be desired.
Take “la Tarde es Caramelo” a wonderful introduction, the guitar sings its melody devising such lovely texture. But then….
Not to mention his “Tres Notas para decir te quiero”…
[My brother is a dentist, I should hand my Amigo CDs to him, after (as I did) selecting out the few jewels I mentioned.
Sometimes I wish all Flamencos would release their records including a side offering only the solo guitar track of the recording, without anything else, no obstinate percussions nor alien sounds. No one’s gonna dance by the rhythm of Amigo’s music, but many play guitar inspired by the prodigy of his solo guitar.
so can anyone shed any light on the history of these guys playing together?
Probably started with "Soy Gitano" which was composed by Amigo, FOR Camaron to sing. The fact nino Jero was there, a player from a way different style and very seasoned accompanist, shows just how much confidence Camaron had in young Amigo accompanying him. The taranto was really nice though.
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No one’s gonna dance by the rhythm of Amigo’s music, but many play guitar inspired by the prodigy of his solo guitar.
Actually, many cuts have inspired dancers. I have had to learn specifically for dancers sections of his solea por bulerias, Fandangos, Farruca, etc. And while his rumbitas are sickenly sweet, and super slick on the the surface, when you actually try to play them, they are deceptively challenging. There is some real guitar music going on there, under the bells and whistles.
There is some real guitar music going on there, under the bells and whistles.
Ricardo
That is exactly my point, Ricardo. I wouldn't dare preposterously command to free flamenco of such "Bells & Whistles"... to each his own... but how about offering ALSO a bonus track or side with solo guitar then freed of all said B&Ws? I can tell there is great guitar suffocating under the dibris of "world music", and I would love an opportunity to hear it in peace...
