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KenK -> picado and pulgar stroke? (Dec. 1 2008 11:52:09)

I'm wondering if when I play a picado run on the upper strings,
and I want a bass note at the same time, should "p" also be a rest stroke?

I tend not to do this- my thumb plays a free stroke.
Should I spend some time working on this technique?
Is it used often?

Thanks

Ken




Ricardo -> RE: picado and pulgar stroke? (Dec. 1 2008 13:21:20)

It depends on the specific passage, and there is no rule really. There is a tune "Panaderos" that has lots of picados with bass notes. Also check Paco's bulerias in A minor, the old one he used to end with a lot. There are vids on youtube. I sometimes hit the bass notes free stroke too, under the resting picado.

A good exercise comes from classical guitar, the Bach Bouree in E minor. Classical players probably don't do this, it is important for flamenco IMO. Just that first section is fun to practice once all Free stroke, then try resting the top melody, the "picado", with free basses. Then try doing resting basses opposite a tirando top melody. Then try it ALL rest strokes. That is hard, but you can really hear a difference in the tone, and when you copy a falseta from the recording, listen out for that tone difference, and perhaps that tonal difference will guide your decision to rest or not for your specific passage.




KenK -> RE: picado and pulgar stroke? (Dec. 1 2008 15:15:17)

Thanks Ricardo-

Excellent advise as always.
I like your idea for the bouree.
Haven't played it in a while, but it shouldn't long to dust off.

Ken




mark indigo -> RE: picado and pulgar stroke? (Dec. 2 2008 12:41:07)

i think there's an exercise floating around somewhere for rest picado and pulgar... maybe on norman's site... hang on i'll have a look...

here it is, just scroll the page 'til you come to "Pim/rest-stroke exercise"

http://www.ctv.es/USERS/norman/pmiexc.htm




KenK -> RE: picado and pulgar stroke? (Dec. 3 2008 6:08:02)

Thanks Mark

Norman's site is great.

Ken




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