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XXX -> ideas for alegrias escobilla? (Nov. 4 2008 12:23:19)

Hi,

i guess everyone knows that falseta i mean. With the thumb. Its funny, but not when you have to play it over 20 compases. Where can i get ideas for alegrias escobilla? I could compose myself some thing in E major. But it gets boring, my ideas always sound like cliches. It would be cool to have a melody which develops over several compases. Well i dont know how the dancers look at it, if it has to be that repetitive as im playing it now. But i want to make it more musical.



Mark2 -> RE: ideas for alegrias escobilla? (Nov. 4 2008 12:55:51)

Check out the flamenco chord list that Ricardo mostly put together ( actually I added some E chords :-) just by playing the arpeggios on different inversions and you'll start to develop different ideas. No reason the escobilla has to stay on the tradtional chords either. If you start it with the E major, B7 changes, then after a few compas and they speed up a bit , you can take off into other chord progressions. No reason you have to start with the E major inversion that the traditional falseta is built off of.



Florian -> RE: ideas for alegrias escobilla? (Nov. 4 2008 13:04:39)

i got a nice one for you ...let me find it



Florian -> RE: ideas for alegrias escobilla? (Nov. 4 2008 13:35:26)

here it is..il make u a quic audio so u know how it fits over escobilla..its great cause it allows u to also warm up your arpegio..picado etc.. in the clases i play for they do footwork exercises to alegria escobill first to warm up..so this allows me too warm up also... and u can go from the trad into this and back to trad etc...



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mrMagenta -> RE: ideas for alegrias escobilla? (Nov. 4 2008 14:46:28)

i like how the falseta catches light and takes off at the end :-) but, what's a buté?



Florian -> RE: ideas for alegrias escobilla? (Nov. 4 2008 14:54:00)

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i like how the falseta catches light and takes off at the end :-)


yeah [:D]


I dont know..i got this falseta a long time ago on the internet somewhere (its part of a traditional falseta...might be french..? theres also a picado scale at the end but that dosent fit with the escobilla...takes u one cycle too far


ps..Deniz i havent looked at the tab in years just been doing it in class from memory..the pulloffs etc..might not the exactly the same as in the audio..but wichever u do it will be ok, either follow the tab or the audio



Stu -> RE: ideas for alegrias escobilla? (Nov. 4 2008 15:08:57)

cheers flo very nice man!



XXX -> RE: ideas for alegrias escobilla? (Nov. 5 2008 2:31:05)

thanks i will look at it!



Ricardo -> RE: ideas for alegrias escobilla? (Nov. 5 2008 5:37:14)

I start off by copying the exact rhythm of the feet with arpeggios. Whether they are 6s,4s, triplets, or duples, I will try to copy exact with arps, while keeping that boring base line. If that goes on more than 4 compases, then you can simply improvise, again copying the same rhythms as the feet, over the chord progression. sort of question and answer you do a run or arp or whatever you want improvise 3 beats, answer it with the E chord. Then another that goes to B7 or F#minor if you prefer. ETc. That way you keep it interesting and rhythmic, and the dancer does not get confused. You can also switch into doing rasgueados that match the feet, at anytime. And sometimes that is good to do then go back to the normal escobilla melodies. That way you give it some dynamics.



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