Ricardo Sanchis 2AF: Telling Cedar vs spruce, ebony vs rosewood? (Full Version)

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Jon Boyes -> Ricardo Sanchis 2AF: Telling Cedar vs spruce, ebony vs rosewood? (May 7 2004 17:13:30)

These pics are of a 1994 Ricardo Sanchis Carpio 2AF and I am trying to verify the woods used.

I thought that this model was supposed to be a blanca but I'm not too sure, looks like a negra to me. I have found conflicting information on the web regarding this model of guitar, and the Sanchis website isn't much help on the matter.

How does one tell cedar from spruce, given that the varnish used can disguise things?

..and on the subject of woods, how does one tell rosewood (fretboard) from ebony, again, given the dyes used?

http://www.jonboyes.co.uk/graphics/rs1.jpg
http://www.jonboyes.co.uk/graphics/rs2.jpg
http://www.jonboyes.co.uk/graphics/rs3.jpg

Any information appreciated, thanks.


Jon



gerundino63 -> RE: Ricardo Sanchis 2AF: Telling Cedar vs spruce, ebony vs rosewood? (May 7 2004 19:08:05)

Hi Jon!

I am pritty sure it is a blanca spruce top.
Cedar is more dark, and have less "side nerves" or the little cloudyness you see on the surface.

The fret board is ebbony.

It is a negra when the sides and back is from rosewood.

But yours are so to see from cypresse.

Hope you know enough now!

B.T.W It looks nice!!

Greetings, Peter



Billyboy -> RE: Ricardo Sanchis 2AF: Telling Cedar vs spruce, ebony vs rosewood? (May 7 2004 20:03:09)

I have a 2f, and its ebony finger board, spruce top, spruce is yellow or pale in colour, Ceder is brown, rosewood finger boards are redish in colour.
Dave



TANúñez -> RE: Ricardo Sanchis 2AF: Telling Cedar vs spruce, ebony vs rosewood? (May 8 2004 1:23:36)

quote:

I thought that this model was supposed to be a blanca but I'm not too sure, looks like a negra to me.


Jon,

From your pictures, looking through the soundhole you can tell it's a blanca. You can see the light colored cypress. If it were a negra you'd have dark brown wood like in your classicals.



Jon Boyes -> RE: Ricardo Sanchis 2AF: Telling Cedar vs spruce, ebony vs rosewood? (May 8 2004 7:44:56)

Thanks guys - I knew that the back and sides were cypress, I just
didn't realise that the possible configurations were only spruce-cypress OR cedar-rosewood. I thought that they made some flamenco guitars with a cedar top and cypress sides.

Jon



gerundino63 -> RE: Ricardo Sanchis 2AF: Telling Cedar vs spruce, ebony vs rosewood? (May 8 2004 8:58:15)

Hi Jon,

Just to get the picture complete, there are blanca's with cedar tops and cipresse sides.

I heared a few very good ones!

Bye, Peter.



aarongreen -> RE: Ricardo Sanchis 2AF: Telling Cedar vs spruce, ebony vs rosewood? (May 8 2004 15:04:37)

Yup it's a blanca. On the topic of fingerboards, it would be very hard to tell if it was ebony or dyed rosewood unless you had it in your hands. Honestly I wouldn't worry too much about that. The quality of ebony these days is quite a bit less than what it used to be, at least in a general market point of view. As it is not the most stable of woods especially when it is of low quality, I would rather have a rosewood board. Those of us who only make a limited number of guitars per year and charge accordingly can afford to use high quality ebony. Factories seldom pay that close attention. Not to slam them but if your building thousands of guitars a year, you use what you got and move on.



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