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frhout -> RE: Sara Baras - Sabores (Jan. 7 2008 9:14:07)

Excellent dancer. There is a DVD as well available. I think she's from Cadiz or San Fernando. The guitarrero Rafael Romero used to play for her as well when they were younger.




Arash -> RE: Sara Baras - Sabores (Jan. 7 2008 9:19:09)

Nice.

This must be Ramon Jimenez on guitar btw.




Florian -> RE: Sara Baras - Sabores (Jan. 7 2008 12:55:34)

Ramon dosent play for Sara to my knolodge she has José María Bandera and José Carlos Gómez.

Jesus de Rosario used to play for her, i think thats who is in her youtube vid.


I have the dvd, i like glimpses of it, eg. Alegrias

I love her but..
I been watching Sara a while now and I feel like i know all her steps, i feel like its almost the same thing in every dvd but with different music and costumes, nothing wrong with that ofcourse shes greate at what she does, but with some dancers, have the rawnes, "heavly grounded" flamenco ( eg Eva La Yerbabuena) i just dont know whats coming, theres a touch of roughness, I love that element.

not very good at explaining what i mean , but i am sure some might know

Imperfection of movements delivered in a perfect way, its a great quality in flamenco Imo.

Antonio Canales, performed all the movements so imprefect in comparrision to the dancers before him, but it was so grounded, and so perfect at beeing imperfect that it was so masculine and flamenco.

made almost every other male dancer of his time seem feminine, for performing the same moves more "techinically" perfect.

to me appearing technically imperfect, and mentaining the raw, grounded, unpolished and realistic movement ,when you infact are technically perfect is the biggest quality a dancer can posses.

but i just realised i am getting overdeep into criticism for no reason lol, Sara is great.




HemeolaMan -> RE: Sara Baras - Sabores (Jan. 7 2008 14:25:50)

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original: florian

I love her butt..


me too flo




Ailsa -> RE: Sara Baras - Sabores (Jan. 7 2008 18:56:48)

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some dancers, have the rawnes, "heavly grounded" flamenco ( eg Eva La Yerbabuena) i just dont know whats coming, theres a touch of roughness, I love that element. not very good at explaining what i mean , but i am sure some might know


No that's a perfect explanation Flo, I know exactly what you mean. I've heard loads about her but never seen a vid before and I was struck by how elegant and almost classical she was. She has a real lightness to her quality of dance. That's not a criticism but just a comment on style. I too prefer those who are more grounded, but that's just a taste thing.




Pimientito -> RE: Sara Baras - Sabores (Jan. 7 2008 20:46:06)

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I don't know if anyone has heard of Sara Baras...


Shes my flamenco dream girl!! I got to see her on my birthday in Madrid... clapped so hard she blew me kisses from stage.[sm=kiss.gif][sm=kiss.gif][sm=kiss.gif][sm=kiss.gif][sm=kiss.gif]
Flo, if you only criticism is that she is just too technically perfect, I'll agree[:D]
I just love her[sm=kiss.gif][sm=kiss.gif][sm=kiss.gif][sm=kiss.gif]




Romanza -> RE: Sara Baras - Sabores (Jan. 8 2008 3:16:59)

at the jerez festival in 2005 the headline in the newspaper the day after her show was 'INSIPIDO'. i wasn't sure if it meant the same in spanish as in english, but it kind of put me off seeing her when she came to london the following year!




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Guest -> RE: Sara Baras - Sabores (Jan. 8 2008 6:39:00)

Hola

You should bear in mind the well known animosity in Jerez for anything from Cádiz (including Camarón).

As for great dancers, try to see Fuensanta la Moneta from Granada.

Seán




ddk -> RE: Sara Baras - Sabores (Jan. 10 2008 9:31:11)

Bravo Florian! I have "Flamenco Women" on VHS and I feel exactly the same way. Sara Baras is a technical monster, but I much prefer Eva La Yerbabuena. Her soul seems to express itself through her whole body, not just through her feet.
Of course I bow to Ailsa for her opinion on dancers[:)].

Dean




Florian -> RE: Sara Baras - Sabores (Jan. 10 2008 22:32:53)

lol thanks [:D]

like i said different styles and tastes do it for everybody but to me and many others flamenco is pefection, yes but rough around the edges, unpredictable, honest, dirty, human (if you notice the technique the dancer has failed to tell her story)...whatever, tripping allover my words again [8|].

Sara is too light, aerial in her marking, not enough force and conviction, dances everything like its the guajira. to be fair she is getting way more grounded thow as she is getting older, life and experience has left its mark on her, but because she has spent so long of it dancing pretty flamenco and catoring to the eye and pleasing the audience i gues its taking me a while to trust it.
(thats another thing a greate flamenco dancer is aware the audience is there but they have a story to tell , and will not change it or look to the audeience or smile to them every sec for approval, they tell they'r story because they belive in it and are living it..and if the audience likes it they applaud if not screw em, thats the element of danger i was talking about, the dancers are not there to entertain the audience, are there because they have a story they wanna tell so bad, when done honestly that is what should entertain the audience, the fact that they belive that the dancer is living the story).

Like the guy wearing the white suit and the Sombrero in the Alegrias in the Sabores dvd. he smiles and aknolodges the audience also but its a different thing, hes got a story to tell , you can see how much it means to him and u can see how personal it is to him.

she has the best turns and great footwork thow and i do watch all of her dvds and do enjoy them for costumes, music, ideas, choreography, singing etc.

at a festival in madrid 2 years ago Sara had a concert at around the same time as Farruquito

Saras' majority audience was filled with 40- 60 year olds Spanish midlle - upper class (dont really care about flamenco, just wanna be seen out, go to flamenco shows once a year)

and Farruiquito's majority audience consisted of 20 - 60 year olds Gitanos (who stay outside the venue in the street afterthe concert and dance buleria till all hours of the morning and live and breathe flamenco )

I cant belive i am criticising Sara lol, well over the years i been forced to watch every dance dvd by dancers and i guess i developed an opinion and a taste in the subject, and gotten quite picky with what does it for me...but its just an personal opinion.

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As for great dancers, try to see Fuensanta la Moneta from Granada.

Seán


who is she ? where can I see her ? is she on a dvd ? I live in Australia




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