RE: The building of a Swedish flamenco guitar

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Stephen Rees -> RE: The building of a Swedish flamenco guitar (Jan. 18 2008 5:29:42)
Good thinking Batman !!! I use a couple of spring-loaded props, like miniature versions of my "Go-Bars", ...........But Now ......!!! Nice one !

TANúñez -> RE: The building of a Swedish flamenco guitar (Jan. 18 2008 5:52:18)
quote: Genius! No. Just doing my job. [:)]

Per Hallgren -> RE: The building of a Swedish flamenco guitar (Jan. 18 2008 6:39:43)
[:D][:D][:D] More serious, I like magnets for different repair situations but they are also a little bit scary to use since they are so strong. I have more than once accidentally lost control over a magnet when gluing a crack and the magnet has bounced the top. And I can imagine my drawer with the bridge gluing cauls with 15 cauls and 30 rare earth magnets. Double sided tape is not so slick maybe but it has worked for me.

TANúñez -> RE: The building of a Swedish flamenco guitar (Jan. 18 2008 6:52:33)
I know what you mean Per. I still use double stick tape most of the time. I just try to use as little as possible. Just enough to hold the caul down which doesn't take much.

Stephen Rees -> RE: The building of a Swedish flamenco guitar (Jan. 18 2008 9:30:15)
Per, Many thanks for a great photo-essay and a superb contribution to the foro .... I've enjoyed being a fly on the wall of your workshop for the past several days, and always interested to see how others do things.....Much appreciated ! Did you shoot all the photos yourself? ... they work really well ! All the best, Steve

Anders Eliasson -> RE: The building of a Swedish flamenco guitar (Jan. 18 2008 22:23:46)
quote: Did you shoot all the photos yourself? ... they work really well ! I agree, I agree. Thanks for the caul tips I will try.[:)]

Per Hallgren -> RE: The building of a Swedish flamenco guitar (Jan. 19 2008 3:26:42)
quote: Per, Many thanks for a great photo-essay and a superb contribution to the foro .... I've enjoyed being a fly on the wall of your workshop for the past several days, and always interested to see how others do things.....Much appreciated ! Did you shoot all the photos yourself? ... they work really well ! You're welcome Stephen. Yes, I took all the pictures myself which sometimes got me feeling very silly running through the workshop while the timer ran on the camera to have time to take a pose with a vvveeery concentrated face and the tool in the correct position...[:D] By the way, I tried to visit your website but couldn't enter. The first page is looking very good, nice layout and pictures. What's inside?

Per Hallgren -> RE: The building of a Swedish flamenco guitar (Jan. 19 2008 3:28:06)
Anders, I will make the next bridge with 12 holes. Thanks for pushing!

Anders Eliasson -> RE: The building of a Swedish flamenco guitar (Jan. 19 2008 19:55:07)
I think you´ll like it. Just remember to make the holes off - set, this way you wont weaken the tieblock.

Stephen Rees -> RE: The building of a Swedish flamenco guitar (Jan. 19 2008 21:26:28)
Ahhh, my website ..... or my webpage as I call it .......yes, that's it at the moment ! R-e-a-l-l-y must finish writing it soon ........ ( prefer to be in the workshop though[:)] )

Per Hallgren -> RE: The building of a Swedish flamenco guitar (Jan. 20 2008 0:29:25)
Stephen, I know what you mean. I think it is both difficult and boring to write for my website. My English part is "under construction" since several years....[8\|] One thing I find difficult is to try to find words that is neither blowing me up like a baloon or denying the fact that I actually has been a full time professional for more than 15 years. I once saw a website where the luthier was presented as "the most famous living luthier in England"...well, that is not my way to say things, I hope...

Stephen Rees -> RE: The building of a Swedish flamenco guitar (Jan. 20 2008 2:49:43)
Per, I have the same problem ...... I find it very difficult to "blow my own trumpet" and I have thought that I may ask someone else to write it for me. Whichever way, I think it is important to have some form of presence on the web these days ....... even only one page with a phone number !! Cheers

flamenco_9 -> RE: The building of a Swedish flamenco guitar (Jan. 21 2008 10:21:53)
thank you Per it was very usefull!! you are very accurate Luthier. whish we can hear the result. can you tell us more about this. Images are resized automatically to a maximum width of 800px

Per Hallgren -> RE: The building of a Swedish flamenco guitar (Jan. 21 2008 17:58:03)
You have been looking at the Swedish photo essay...well I actually started to write something in English for the Foro but stopped after an hour because of laziness. The pictures and the text is about the resonances in a guitar. I will eventually get myself together and write something about it some day but not today. Time is short for the moment.

Tom Blackshear -> RE: The building of a Swedish flamenco guitar (Apr. 16 2008 14:30:03)
Hi Per, I realize this post is several months old but I just joined the list. I enjoyed your pictures a lot. I see that you are getting a little older; like myself :-) I hope things are well with you. I noticed that you were building a domed top. I normally build a flat top with the Reyes style since it has a very melodic and full sound to begin with. There is a certain articulation I get with the playing action for thumb and left hand ligado when the top is built flat. Have you tried this technique? Note: there is a little rise behind the bridge that is curved due to the slight tapering around the edges from the bottom toward the lower bout at the bridge line but in front of the bridge it is totally flat as is the whole upper bout; actually, a little concave due to the even thickness of the finger-board, from the nut to the 19th fret. Tom Blackshear

Per Hallgren -> RE: The building of a Swedish flamenco guitar (Apr. 17 2008 5:44:02)
Hi Tom, you're right. I am getting older. Soon I have completed my first half century. Still waiting for the wisdom though... Are you still building? The dome in the top is very small and I use it mainly of climate protecting reasons. This guitar is going to the extreme north of Sweden where the winter climate is extremely dry. Laying a straight edge across the top show a rise of 1.5 mm across and almost nothing lenghtwise, exactly as the Reyes guitar I have had for pattern. The guitar sound and play well and I am satisfied with it.

Anders Eliasson -> RE: The building of a Swedish flamenco guitar (Apr. 17 2008 7:40:48)
I agree with Per. Why build flat when you can achieve the sound you are looking for by doming the guitar slightly? It has a lot of advantages IMHO

Sherman -> RE: The building of a Swedish flamenco guitar (Apr. 20 2008 22:55:46)
Ok I am easily impressed when it comes to guitars, but this was great. Especially appreciated the intricacies apparent with the binding. Really great Per. I should have ordered a couple of years ago! This is the style of guitar I like, (cypress back and sides) although played in classical style. Very responsive generally I think. Sherman

Per Hallgren -> RE: The building of a Swedish flamenco guitar (Apr. 21 2008 7:53:08)
Thanks Sherman. I agree in that the spruce/cypress combination is a great one, no matter if it is a flamenco or classical. They have a special allure. I build them different though, naturally.

Tom Blackshear -> RE: The building of a Swedish flamenco guitar (Apr. 21 2008 15:21:28)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Tom, you're right. I am getting older. Soon I have completed my first half century. Still waiting for the wisdom though... Are you still building? The dome in the top is very small and I use it mainly of climate protecting reasons. This guitar is going to the extreme north of Sweden where the winter climate is extremely dry. Laying a straight edge across the top show a rise of 1.5 mm across and almost nothing lenghtwise, exactly as the Reyes guitar I have had for pattern. The guitar sound and play well and I am satisfied with it. quote: .............." Yes, I'm still building and I have decided to take a few orders but not over a year out since I don't prefer to be stressed on a regular schedule past that point. I understand what you are saying about expansion and shrinkage of the top but I have found that the top will take a lot of shrinkage due to its relationship with the cypress sides and back. It's not so much the shrinkage but a rapid drying out that causes problems. You practically have to fill the wood with water and then dry it rapidly to have a cracking problem. I have built guitars in 45 % humidity and they went to 0-20 % with no problems. But one player in Boston, with steam radiators for heat, had a cracking problem due to rapid changes in the humidity. Btw, that particular guitar had a slight dome in its top and was over 10 years old when it happened. I think that the reason for flat tops for the Reyes is that the 2003 Reyes I examined had it. It's no mystery that Reyes experimented with a lot of designs over the years but I think the main reason for his flat top now is that he sees a certain articulation with it. Everything I examined was flat in front of the bridge area, going across the top. And then of course there are different sizes, shapes, and tapering conditions on all of the fan braces that cause this certain articulation. I would also like to add that I really find your shop one of the most workable areas I've ever seen and I wish I had something even close to it.

xirdneH_imiJ -> RE: The building of a Swedish flamenco guitar (Nov. 22 2010 11:21:04)
Per, are you still around? Any chance to see the pictures again?

Per Hallgren -> RE: The building of a Swedish flamenco guitar (Nov. 23 2010 18:30:12)
I removed the photos from Photobucket from where they were linked because they generated a lot of private e-mail and phone calls. They were posted at two other forums too and altogether it was too much. You can see the pictures here: http://www.hallgrenguitars.com/Per_Hallgren,_Guitarmaker/The_workshop.html or here if you speak Swedish: http://www.hallgrenguitars.com/Per_Hallgren,_Gitarrbyggare/Verkstaden.html Hope you can enjoy them anyway.

xirdneH_imiJ -> RE: The building of a Swedish flamenco guitar (Nov. 23 2010 21:19:04)
many thanks Per!

buleria74 -> RE: The building of a Swedish flamenco guitar (Nov. 25 2010 19:22:29)
hej Per, thanks for the posting, I am happy to see you in this foro, I will visit you after Christmas, hälsningar från Skåne.

Anders Eliasson -> RE: The building of a Swedish flamenco guitar (Nov. 25 2010 21:43:09)
Hej Per Godt at se dig igen her paa forummet. There are an interesting and very new Torres blog on the swedish site.[:)] hälsningar

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