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AndrewE -> soundboard repair (Dec. 17 2007 11:40:00)

Any suggestions on patching an accidental nick put in the soundboard near the rosette. Most of the nick is covered by the neck. The nick is only as deep as the rosette channel. See attached photo.

I tried making a small piece of spruce to glue in but the piece is so small that I couldn't do it (like micro surgery).

So now I'm thinking of a some sort of filler. I tried superglue and spruce sandings and the results were OK but not great.

Is there any better ways?



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aarongreen -> RE: soundboard repair (Dec. 18 2007 2:14:23)

If you have tried superglue and sawdust on that particular nick then you are stuck with what you got. It doesn't look that bad in the photograph so if that is fairly accurate then you might just continue to fill it with blonde shellac and call it a day. If you have not tried the superglue fill then you can try hide glue and licapodium powder. Licapodium powder is a real old violin trick for filling in nicks and such around the purflings of fiddles, the color of the licapodium powder when mixed with hide glue is very close to spruce. Of course they were also using dark varnishes but it's a better way to go than superglue and wood dust. You can sometimes find licapodium powder in health food stores or you can try a vioin supply house. You probably will have better luck with the latter.



jshelton5040 -> RE: soundboard repair (Dec. 18 2007 3:35:04)

Are you planning on selling this guitar? If not, why are you worrying about an extremely minor flaw like this? Just put a little wood filler (Elmer's water based works well) glue the fingerboard on and forget about it. Once you're playing the guitar you'll never see the nick again.



Ron.M -> RE: soundboard repair (Dec. 18 2007 3:41:33)

Hmm..
How about taking a photograph of a good part of the rosette, scaling it on the computer, printing it on decent paper then cutting out a matching section and gluing it on?

cheers,

Ron



AndrewE -> RE: soundboard repair (Dec. 18 2007 10:34:52)

Thanks Aaron,

I've only tried the superglue/spruce dust on scrape. I'll try and get some of the lycopoduim powder and try that with some hide glue.



AndrewE -> RE: soundboard repair (Dec. 18 2007 11:03:12)

No I'm not selling it, it's a freebee for a friend.

Why am I worrying about a small flaw? I wouldn't say I'm worrying about it. I have to fill it one way or another so might as well get the best result I can.

I get your point about not noticing it once it's being played. Although I'm not selling it, I plan to sell other guitars in the future. People will see this guitar and unfortunately from my experience with my first guitar people just seem to love finding things which don't really matter in the end. With my first guitar the binding/purfling could of been better and I jointed the bookmatched back in a unbookmatched way - nothing that really matters to me, sure perfect binding/purfling is what i'd prefer. But everbody who played the guitar could not flaw the sound and playability.

As I don't have any really experience with selling guitars, i'm guessing that the person who worries more about small inperfections in the finish is less likely to buy than somebody who is more interested in the sound & feel.



AndrewE -> RE: soundboard repair (Dec. 18 2007 11:05:32)

Interesting - Lateral thinking, probably work quiet well. But don't think I could bring myself to doing it.



Anders Eliasson -> RE: soundboard repair (Dec. 18 2007 19:13:27)

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People will see this guitar and unfortunately from my experience with my first guitar people just seem to love finding things which don't really matter in the end.


Dont bother brother... Dont think to much about what other people think. Judge yourself and dont be to hard on your self.. The flaw is absolutely minor and close to nothing. Almost all guitars have some kind of flaw. Its more or less impossible to build a perfect guitar. Remember that sound and playability is what counts.

In my experience, the people liking to find things that dont really matter, are the ones who play very little. The players, first judge the guitar as an instrument and then they take a look at cosmetics.
I went to the Peña here in Huelva last friday and took a guitar with me to show to José Louis Postigo who was here to play. He´s considered one of the best guitaristst with cante . He has two guitar shops and is a colector of Reyes, Barba and Conde (and others). We talked a bit, I gave him the guitar, he sat down and played it a bit, looking for its sweet spot, then gave it a few minuts of different palos. Then he talked about the sound which he found to be very authentical and andaluz, saying it was a surpice that I, a foreigner had captured that spirit so well. He comented that it was very comfortable... And THEN he started looking at it, design, rosette, colour, workmanship and was very possitive.
That was very nice. I liked very much that he´s way of "judging" my guitar. Very professional but also kind.

Be proud of your work. I dont know how many guitars you have made, but dont judge yourself to hard. Its allowed to be human and make errors.



AndrewE -> RE: soundboard repair (Dec. 19 2007 17:37:34)

Thanks for the positive reply Andres.

The comments were on my first guitar. I'm now working on 2 new guitars. You are right, the best player that I showed it too did not comment on the minor asthetic issues, he was mainly interested in sound and the feel. He made a couple of suggestion which were valuable.

Yer, Jose luis Postigo is a great guitarist, I have a CD with him and Chocolate. It must be fantastic to mingle with great flamenco's.

Are all the flamenco artist in Spain open to foreigners? Or is there a sort private clan within specific regions e.g is it easy to mingle with Jerez artists?

If I ever get over there maybe we can catch up.

All the best,
Andrew



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