Jon Boyes -> RE: Scandalous Poll (Mar. 25 2004 14:11:37)
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ORIGINAL: bindu_72 Im curious, what is "Real Flamenco". If gipsy kings play "Inspiration" and straight after PDL plays "Entre Dos Aguas". Both of which only have rasguadoes and picado runs (no tremolo's or alzapuas) and both are rumba's are we now saying the PDL is now "fluff" or the "real stuff". Hi Bindu You may find this useful. Scroll down to the bit on the Gipsy Kings. I think Sals stuff is amusing, but at the same time theres a massive amount of info on flamenco on his site. (Nice guy too.) http://herso.freeservers.com/is.html As I think I said to you in a previous post, Rumba is considered a very minor form in flamenco. It doesn't follow the 12 beat cycle that the primary palos do, for example. Also, there is quite a difference between a flamenco player playing a rumba accompaniment, and those GK numbers. The way they do it is kind of simplified, and in many cases (Inspiration, Faena, Pharaon) performed at a MUCH more laid back pace than a real flamenco rumba. So thats why GKs are not really a flamenco outfit - they specialise in music that has its roots in flamenco, but is basically easy listening spanish pop based on a minor flamenco form (though they have recorded a few 'real' palos as others have said - I have a bulerias on one of their albums.) As for Paco, he is known for his excursions into jazz fusion and Entre Dos Aguas was basically an album filler - they had time left in the studio and just jammed a rumba, with Paco soloing over the top. Most afficionadoes would probably hate it, and point to the amazing bulerias on the same album for a taste of the real thing. Jon PS I'm sure that the intro to the middle section where it speeds up and he plays the Em cadence is played with alzapua. Thats how I do it, anyhow.
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