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paco picado -> Riqueni's Rebelde buleria (Nov. 21 2007 19:45:17)

I just wondered if anyone out there has ever attempted Riqueni’s Rebelde, Buleria from Alcazar de Cristal. It the second Buleria in the Eceuntro book. Iam using the Amazing Slow downer from ronimusic.com to slow it down, and try and mark with a pencil where the compas lies, marking the score with pencil during the complex syncopated falsetas. Then playing along with Ron’s great Flamenco Master, making a mental note of roughly were the 12 6 8 10 beats are. The first falseta begins on 12, the second begins on 10, which make it necessary to end the previous rasgueado section on 8. Some of the falsetas seem to emphasize half beats. Having not started flamenco until later years, and quoting a great British guitarist I met called Phillip John Lee. That unless you are either born into a flamenco environment or have lived in Spain for many many years, you must learn to count while playing, he had an enviable ability to be able to count out loud, while playing everything. Although with practice you just play by feel.
Cheers
Paco



Ricardo -> RE: Riqueni's Rebelde buleria (Nov. 21 2007 20:57:15)

Regardless of where you were born, or when you started learning, or learn by ear, by music, use a metronome, or count out loud, or whatever, you need to make sure you FEEL the rhythm, where EACH note and space lands in time. Practice real slow just a few beats at a time, over and over. Don't keep playing the whole thing over and over, hit or miss with the "accents". You need to feel each beat and space one to the NEXT, not shooting for accents and hope it works itself out inbetween. Just use a normal click sound, and go in bits, adding it together little by little. If you can singing the rhythm of it, then you will be able to play it better. You need to internalize the feel of it. To me, the fact the left hand moves are tricky or whatever should not interupt what you percieve to be the feeling of the rhythm. So Riqueni falseta becomes no more challenging than Sabicas or Diego del Gastor, etc.

Ricardo



paco picado -> RE: Riqueni's Rebelde buleria (Nov. 22 2007 19:47:41)

Thanks Ricardo. To me Riqueni is the ultimate in solo flmenco guitar. Up to him going mad, each album seemed more challenging as far as techique and syncopation goes. To me there is no way one is just going to feel the rythem unless you study it and it forensically dysecting every up stroke down stroke, from the best in the buisness, which folk like Riqueni are. Some people might have it easier than I did. But I went to a master class with Riqueni, about 1998, at the Cordoba fest, and he had a blackboard up and was dysecting the compas, and falsetas by mystros like Sabicas , and was explaining in almost mathematical ways the evolution of modern falsteas, and explaining how falsetas can last severlal compases, before hitting that all important 10s beat etc
Cheers
Paco



Ricardo -> RE: Riqueni's Rebelde buleria (Nov. 23 2007 4:46:11)

Yeah, one not need to get so nerdy about it. For the record, you inspired me to dust off the book, and in about 30 minutes, I got the intro down at a medium tempo. I just use my foot tap, and asign notes to it. That arp is weird in the begining, but I don't think 12. Just 4 8th notes per foot and keep going. You feel the pattern as two halves, and the last chord shape of the of the first half is the same as the first shape of the second half and you just slide it down. Once the right hand has the two arp patterns, I just loop the rhythm with my foot and start speeding up. For me it is easy that way, and fast to learn new material. The next part I remember it from the vid, he has those slow triplets that are weird, but if you keep the foot going, you get it.

My feeling is the last compas coming down the scale of the intro with the thumb, before the strumming starts, is wrong. I feel it an eighth note EARLIER than Encuentro writes it ( they have it ON the beat, but I think that feels wrong). During the compas he has a similar rhythm that is synchopted. With the foot, it is easy for me. Maybe I will make a vid.

Ricardo



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