[Deleted] (Full Version)

Foro Flamenco: http://www.foroflamenco.com/
- Discussions: http://www.foroflamenco.com/default.asp?catApp=0
- - General: http://www.foroflamenco.com/in_forum.asp?forumid=13
- - - [Deleted]: http://www.foroflamenco.com/fb.asp?m=78036



Message


Guest -> [Deleted] (Nov. 10 2007 17:15:33)

[Deleted by Admins]




Arash -> RE: Enrique Morente criticizes a critic (Nov. 10 2007 17:28:06)

too bad i dont understand spanish[&:]




Isaac -> RE: Enrique Morente criticizes a critic (Nov. 10 2007 18:05:40)

Awesome!!
Can we sign the letter...? [:D]




Ricardo -> RE: Enrique Morente criticizes a critic (Nov. 10 2007 20:05:46)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Arash

too bad i dont understand spanish[&:]


Here is some auto translation:
DANCE FOR MARTIN

I am encouraged and happy to be able to do a critique on the criticism that exists today in flamenco. Not to generalize, and although things have improved dramatically, the level of criticism over the years has been very unfortunate and mediocre.

But today I want to refer particularly to critical Martin Martin Martin. What I say to lively and happy because after carrying this gentleman and a few others for 15 or 20 years trying destruirme, today I see with joy, laughter and regocijos that he and others like him have failed me.


I have checked in this biennial (Malaga in Flemish 2007) continuing its precious literary style ...

Naturally, a critic has the right for freedom of expression (Act I applaud and, as a Democrat, I support), and the obligation to say what they think about a work of art, a show or a performance. What it is not entitled to convert his criticism and his writings in a collision filled with insults, insults, slander, a vocabulary worthy of any person who believes freedom of expression and literature. Do not lift slander, insult to young people who are beginning, when you have to do is encourage them and encourage them, regardless of make criticism, if possible constructive. And if possible, you know that both… tell you what to do and how we have to do.

That should know if he had assimilated something that should be respect and coexistence within the world of culture and art. Because, when it makes a criticism, it seems that you are talking about Iraq, Pakistan, Gescartera or Operation Malaya. Other times gives the impression that you are using the school's style of politics that exists today, the idea is to defame and destroy the contrary to get more votes.

You will not get better because in the world of journalism because you had nothing to do with what is supposed to be a critic of honesty within the freedom of expression. So illiteracy and ignorance accompany their presuntuosidad and his aggressive posture and fascist.

Look at you, talk about art thief is not to call anyone who climbs on stage. In times past complaints were continuous with the little that helped the Flemish and now, if some youths have received a grant of aid to mount an artistic idea, I called you mangones. What stayed?, Are thieves if they ask for help? Or what is the position as you ?.... The artists, but you do not create it, by rising to a scenario, many days and sometimes many months earlier, had suffered many nightmares, have worked countless hours, have many illusions for a critical allow constantly agredirlos and ofenderlos (and always in addition to the same). If you know so much, Mr MMM, why not tell you how you should do, especially young people?

Treat you to understand that flamenco is a music not all of you and your favorite. You can not insult the young and old artists who are not gypsies, not insults you calling them payos. They are more respectful you with the art Gypsy, which also belongs to everyone. Young people will remember you as a racist fascist.

It allows you to defame and accused of mangones (you know very well that in slang Flemish mangón means thief), this is what you have called to most of the artists who have performed in the biennial Malaga. Who do you think is more mangón and more thief: the artist who has been handed over months earlier, morning and afternoon, and has put all he had until that time comes onto the stage, or an individual who is offered through an agency to present himself Flamenco shows and the next day used the newspaper in which he writes, and makes judge and jury, allowed to make criticism of the same show? Do you not understand, Mr. MMM, if you are hired to make presenter, and you leave the stage, from that moment is an interpreter of that show and it is you who should be criticized? See you, for less serious crimes there are people in jail. And the way you do, rather than criticism should be tried in court.

Anyway, Mr MMM, in a few years by law of nature you will have disappeared along with his criticism and his mustache and still live the young people to whom you have defamed, insulted and offended, and they know very well that what has you done with the young Flemish non-aggressive world. Many of them have been destroyed morally. In Naranjito Triana what you ripped. He retired from the profession because of their cute comments ¨ ¨. And even if you do not create it, (because you have the ear where… mustache), Naranjito has been one of the great singers who had Seville. I have tended my hand to them to tell them not to worry, that his position ordinariez can never be sincere with the art of youth. Because all these young people will remember you as a sinister character and laugh at you because, in any case, which is what an artist is going to be reading what you say, what you write and write as you put put.

Their dares have reached the ultimate say on Paco de Lucia, last year, which was nearly finished. What we should have done is to thank him for the enormous work he has done in the world by our gender. Never pay him enough for what he has given us.

¡Aah! Incidentally, I said Paco (Lucia): Enrique, tell Martin to give the sock… (imagine that will be sweating…).

He did not answer any defamation of you accustomed Mr MMMM; by the way, does not seem to you too 'em ¨?...

Written by: Enrique Morente.

Signed by:
Paco de Lucia
Archangel
etc

And here is the poor guy and his moustach[:D]
http://www.jondoweb.com/conferencias/manuelmartinmartin.htm




Guest -> [Deleted] (Nov. 10 2007 20:15:06)

[Deleted by Admins]




duende -> RE: Enrique Morente criticizes a critic (Nov. 10 2007 20:51:36)

what a bastard, i´d like to pluck his moushtach with a tweezer or what ever its called in english[:D]




Pimientito -> RE: Enrique Morente criticizes a critic (Nov. 10 2007 21:01:33)

Duende, In English its a ****er****er and a moustache [:D][;)]




falsetanuova -> RE: Enrique Morente criticizes a critic (Nov. 11 2007 1:40:09)

The truth always wins....eventually.

The hateful, ignorant, and scornful always eventually shoot themselves eventually by their own doing.

This "critic" is a perfect example.

People make their own judgements, and are not foolish. Whatever this fellow says in the future will have little if any weight.

It is obvious how wrong he is, and ignorant. People see it.

Is it not foolish that gitanos, historically, have been repressed and disrespected and were not allowed to express themselves are now (per this critic) discriminating against others for the very same reasons?! How absurd.

Critics are all idiots, in all fields of art, as far as I am concerned. Anyone can read a thing or know a thing, but few can DO IT. Learning about flamenco from books is about as valuable as learning to swim on a sofa.

We should be thankful to these greats who made it a point to voice their thoughts like this.

This guy is going to crawl back under his rock now....

Thanks for posting this.




Arash -> RE: Enrique Morente criticizes a critic (Nov. 11 2007 12:45:28)

Thanks Ricardo and Lionel,

if this is all true what Enrique is saying in this letter, then this
M.M.M. (Mr. Monkey Moron) is really a fashist.




Page: [1]

Valid CSS!




Forum Software powered by ASP Playground Advanced Edition 2.0.5
Copyright © 2000 - 2003 ASPPlayground.NET