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jshelton5040 -> Double vision (Oct. 1 2007 16:30:36)

A while back in a discussion of tap tone tuning I mentioned that we were building a matched set of classics. They are completed and sound remarkably similar the voices have good volume and beautiful color. Since a matched set is relatively rare I thought a couple of pictures might be of interest to everyone. These are cedar top double body guitars with Indian Rosewood back and sides.



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jshelton5040 -> RE: Double vision (Oct. 1 2007 16:32:48)

Back and sides:



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mrMagenta -> RE: Double vision (Oct. 1 2007 22:56:53)

beautiful! ooh




Jan Willem -> RE: Double vision (Oct. 2 2007 12:19:32)

They look really beautifull, I hope they play/sound the same. Good work and heads of to you guys




andresito -> RE: Double vision (Oct. 2 2007 13:39:26)

Now you just need to find some classically-trained twins to buy them! [:D]




guitarbuddha -> RE: Double vision (Oct. 2 2007 14:01:01)

Anyone got Duo Assad's email?




jshelton5040 -> RE: Double vision (Oct. 2 2007 15:22:04)

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ORIGINAL: andresito

Now you just need to find some classically-trained twins to buy them! [:D]


The fact is Andresito that we'd never build a classic unless it was a commission. I wouldn't mind having a whole house full of unsold flamencos just to enjoy picking up a different one every day or so but we build classic guitars only when ordered.

Did you notice the ports around the perimeter of the top?




Ailsa -> RE: Double vision (Oct. 2 2007 15:35:37)

They are lovely - I love the dark wood - indian rosewood is beautfiul.

I love my guitar but it is a bit.... well orange tbh [&:][&:] Just doesn't match my nail polish. [:D][:D] When I bought it I asked the guy if it came in a more natural colour and he said in horrified tones, 'but this is the traditional colour!'. I didn't like to say, 'mebbe but it's a bit yucky'.




prd1 -> RE: Double vision (Oct. 2 2007 16:23:12)

I know what you mean - the first flamenco guitar I bought was from the Conde shop in Atocha - not only was the guitar over priced but the finish matched my mum's nail varnish (both colour and quality).

We live and learn...




Patrick -> RE: Double vision (Oct. 2 2007 19:04:33)

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I love my guitar but it is a bit.... well orange


Ailsa,

My guess is they are orange looking due to being cedar tops versus spruce. I would also guess they have a bit of color added to the finish.

John,

So when do we get to see pictures of the new big shop?

Any salmon in the river yet?

Is that some of the Mount St Helen's cedar? Not many people can have a guitar built from wood blown over by a volcano eruption! [:D]




jshelton5040 -> RE: Double vision (Oct. 2 2007 19:44:37)

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ORIGINAL: Patrick

John,

So when do we get to see pictures of the new big shop?

Any salmon in the river yet?

Is that some of the Mount St Helen's cedar? Not many people can have a guitar built from wood blown over by a volcano eruption! [:D]


Hello Patrick...I've been thinking of posting a couple pictures of the shop but I didn't know if anyone would be interested.

The salmon are in and we're going after them this Friday in Alsea Bay.

The cedar is actually pre-St. Helens eruption. We got it in the 70's from Idaho. It's is so dark that it's only suitable for classics or negras. The tree was definitely old growth around 15 feet in diameter. It was an enormous snag dead for many years and there really wasn't that much good wood left in it. We didn't cut it of course since I don't own a chain saw of that size but we bought it from the guys who did.




Patrick -> RE: Double vision (Oct. 2 2007 19:52:43)

John,

I would enjoy seeing the new shop. We have lots of builders (budding and otherwise) that would likely as well.

You have a very unique commodity in the St Helens' Cedar. I am sure lots of folks would enjoy hearing how you came by it.

Say hello to Susan.




jshelton5040 -> RE: Double vision (Oct. 2 2007 22:48:37)

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ORIGINAL: Patrick


You have a very unique commodity in the St Helens' Cedar. I am sure lots of folks would enjoy hearing how you came by it.



Actually getting the St. Helens cedar was just dumb luck. A friend of a friend was doing lumber salvage and generously allowed me to pick through some of the old growth logs and buy a couple. These weren't gigantic trees but high elevation cedar grows slowly and the grains are extremely fine. I sawed about 100 tops from billets this summer and sold half of them keeping the best for myself. We probably still have enough billets to get another 100 tops which gives you an idea how much wood we started with in 1982. Although the St. Helens wood is gorgeous I really prefer some cedar we happened on accidently in the coast range. It was a rotting cedar log that had been down who knows how many years. We didn't get much wood out of it but it's the lightest colored cedar I've seen and extremely stiff. I've hoarded the few billets we got from it for years and this summer I sawed the last of it. Fifteen tops is all that's left these will all be used for blancas.

I'll take some pictures of the shop and post them.




Patrick -> RE: Double vision (Oct. 2 2007 23:49:15)

John,

Man...You’re missing the boat. You need to build up the story of that wood. You know...it was just days after Mt St Helen's blew it's mighty top. My dog Scout and I snuck into the highly guarded blast zone. Massive carnage surrounded us, but we had a mission. The mission...to find the one and only cedar tree known to exist at exactly 11,253 feet in elevation.

But the problem.... the mountain was now 11,252 feet high.....well you get the idea.

It's a better story then "the guy let me pick through it"!




Patrick -> RE: Double vision (Oct. 2 2007 23:58:21)

By the way...this is what miles and miles of the mountain looked like after the blast.

Hard to see in the picture, but thousands of acres of trees were leveled in seconds.



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TANúñez -> RE: Double vision (Oct. 3 2007 1:20:02)

John,

Those are simply stunning!!! What's better than one great classic? two!!




HemeolaMan -> RE: Double vision (Oct. 3 2007 5:47:03)

Beautiful guitars! I wish I had any sort of excuse to buy some like them!

Funny thing about those trees..... that eruption moved about 2 cubic kilometers of earth at incredible speed. not only that, the volcanic ash, which at that time would have been a couple hundred degrees, sandblasted and charred most of those trees, almost instantaneously. So, if you tell the story right, you can increase the novelty of the wood by saying you found the only trees that survived, in the shelter of a rock shelf or something lol




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