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Franchiquito -> Minera and taranta (Sep. 9 2007 12:25:10)

What's the difference between minera and taranta.
I know there is a difference from the key point of view...

F.




Arash -> RE: Minera and taranta (Sep. 9 2007 12:49:02)

As far as i know there is no big difference. Minera is a very accentuated form of Taranta.
I think the only difference is the transposing and when talking about Cante, accentuation of some parts when singing.




Ricardo -> RE: Minera and taranta (Sep. 9 2007 17:32:15)

The Cante of both are very similar. There are nuances that are hard to pick up on unless you are a singer or an expert in "cantes de las minas". Musically, the structure is the same, and you could accompany in either F# or G# on the guitar. The generalization I would make is that Minera seems longer and more ornate, Taranta more stripped down to the melody. The simplest or least ornate IMO is Taranto, and probably why it got favored for dance. BUt in a dance or single cante performance, you may see letras of various cantes de las minas mixed. Meaning Cartagenera, Levantica, Fandango minero, etc etc, just look for a list. On the surface they all sound very similar, with the occasional move to B minor or something different. So just listening a lot starts to reveal the differences. Sometimes you may see a labled "Taranta" but for sure you know the melody is Taranto. keep listening and maybe the next letra is Taranta for example. I have one album of Porrinas and he announces as the guitarist does the falseta "here is my own mix of Taranto and Taranta", and there is just one letra. So add on personal style and it becomes harder to clearly define the differences.

As a guitarist the important thing is to understand the basic structure and the important notes that signal the chord changes. And of course for guitar solo, the distinction in the names are based on the key only. As we have talked about before, playing in a certain key on guitar, regardless of capo postion, produces a charactistic "aire". But for cante, the guitar need not be in a special key necessarily.

Ricardo




Raimundo -> RE: Minera and taranta (Sep. 10 2007 12:45:56)

What is minera and taranta????[&:]




Franchiquito -> RE: Minera and taranta (Sep. 10 2007 18:14:17)

Thank you very much for these precious information.

@Raiumundo : are you joking or not?

F.




Ricardo -> RE: Minera and taranta (Sep. 11 2007 7:47:39)

quote:

What is minera and taranta????


In case you were not joking, they are two separate cantes or flamenco song forms, from of group of special FANDANGOS that come from the Levante region of Spain. Sometimes the group or family of songs are called "cantes de Levante" or "cante de las minas" because they evolved from workers singing their own special fandangos in the mines in that area. Look at a map of spain.

Guitar minded folks associate these two particular song forms with certain keys on the guitar. Taranta being F#phyrigian/Bminor/Dmajor. Minera would be in G#phrygian/C#minor/E major. Hope that helps.

If you REALLY never heard about this at all, can you tell us exactly WHAT flamenco you have been listening to until now?




Ailsa -> RE: Minera and taranta (Sep. 11 2007 7:57:36)

Ricardo you are a fantastic source of info! I give you two stars!!




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