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Merle -> Garrotin (Feb. 22 2004 15:59:50)
Hey all, I'm learning a garrotin, "El Mantoncillo", and I was wondering where this toque relates to the other toques? To me, it seems like it has a little farruca feel ? Or not? Where did this orginate and is it still played today? Merle

duende -> RE: Garrotin (Feb. 22 2004 18:56:06)
HI. I think garrotin comes from Galicia and was introduced into the flamenco repertoire at the end of the nineteenth century. It was develop by niña de los peines and of course carmen amaya. To me it has a farucca feel with a slight touch of tango[sm=Smiley Guitar.gif] Henrik (i could be wrong)

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Merle -> RE: Garrotin (Feb. 23 2004 20:45:39)
Thanks guys...I listened to "Mi Garrotin" from by Sabicas from the "Grandes Figures Du Flamenco", vol 14, and it sounds like 2 guitars. Do you know if Sabicas played both guitars, or did he have someone else playing with him? Merle

duende -> RE: Garrotin (Feb. 24 2004 7:10:47)
Hi. I don´t know about that pice but i have read that he sometimes "overdubbed" himself. Henrik.

Richard Jernigan -> RE: Garrotin (Mar. 3 2004 21:38:30)
Indeed there are recordings of Sabicas playing two or even three parts. There was an LP titled "Tres Guitarras Tiene Sabicas." But there are also a few recordings of Sabicas in juerga-like settings with singers and dancers, where the second guitar part is played by Sabicas' brother, and at least one LP of Sabicas and Mario Escudero playing duets, titled, (if memory serves) "Sabicas and Escudero". There's a film clip from the '30s of Carmen Amaya dancing, accompanied by Sabicas and 3 or 4 other guitarists. Before the days of the PA system, I guess. RNJ

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Richard Jernigan -> RE: Garrotin (Mar. 8 2004 20:04:50)
Both Sabicas and Pepe Martinez recorded Garrotin solos. If memory serves, Alain Faucher has tab for the Sabicas. RNJ

Merle -> RE: Garrotin (Mar. 9 2004 23:26:45)
AndyB! Sorry for responding so late! The garrotin, "El Mantoncillo", by Pena is what I'm trying to learn now. It's sounds sweet...! If I get the nerve, I'll post a little sound clip of what it sounds to me. It's a cool sounding toque...alive....! Merle

Merle -> RE: Garrotin (Mar. 9 2004 23:32:18)
RNJ, those old records and tapes of Sabicas...NOW that would be something to collect!@! That whole family is flamenco ... Merle )then) there is us !

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Merle -> RE: Garrotin (Mar. 10 2004 20:43:19)
AndyB, the music is in Paco Pena's "Toques Flamencos" book. It also has a nice colombiana, "El Nuevo Dia" that I'm learning also. After reading Miquel de Maria's concert review of Paco Pena, maybe I should not mention his name here on the forum! ;>) (just kidding)... But, I like this whole book, and if you don't have it, maybe you should get it. I'm pretty sure you will like the toques in it, because from what I understand, these are part of his student reptoire (sp). Merle

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