Ricardo -> RE: black people (Sep. 14 2007 5:37:00)
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I'm not generalizing. I don't know any African or Afro-american playin g flamenco. I don't see them on youtube, I don't see them on the foro. I don't know of anyone who made a cd. I'm just noticing that, and it made me wonder. Sure there will be some excentrics who do but in general I think I'm right. Sorry that some one dug up your dead horse. But it was a good question anyway, or at least it points to an important point. I think you ARE generalizing because it is rare to find NON SPANISH PEOPLE playing flamenco. Non gypsy, non andaluz, non spanish, non european etc etc, further away from Jerez, the less you find. Of course Japanese people are big aficionados of EVERYTHING. So you find japanese metal guitarists, flamenco dancers and singers, andes style charango MASTERS, etc. in japan. So count them OUT. Why is it that HOLLAND there are lots of flamenco guitarists? My theory is because of Rotterdam and Paco Pena's school. There is a reason for it. In USA you have some people in certain areas into flamenco, and LOTS of the guitar enthusiasts worship Diego del Gastor thanks to Don Pohren. There is always a reason for some weird phenomenon like a certain group or local area of people are into flamenco in unusually high numbers. OK, so since you are in Holland, and you ASKED, I ask again, how many black or african or "afro-american" people are your FRIENDS and collegues? Would you say 50% of the people you work with or live in your neighbor hood ARE black? If so, I would understand why you are wondering why not a lot of black folks are into flamenco, considering it is strange how MANY dutch are into flamenco relative to other non spaniards. I live in DC. MOST of the people living near me are afro american. At least 50 percent. And many in or around places I work. I have some black friends. I personally know or have met about 4 black women who dance flamenco, one black male plays flamenco guitar, and I mean in compas some of Nunez falsetas and others of encuentro, and even one black male Flamenco singer who also dances very well bulerias and sevillanas. And I have met many other enthusiasts or students of flamenco guitar and dance that are black. I also know many white eruopeans doing flamenco, latino or latin American, a few spanish, Asian, filipino, Persian, turkish, greek, two from Trinidad (who might be considered black or jamaican though more blood from INDIA), even native american. In fact, my best friend is a great Rumbero and flamenco singer and is Bolivian Indian. There are more of non spanish than spanish doing flamenco in my area. The percentages actually work out based on how many different groups of people there are. Based on my sampling of different ethnic groups involved in flamenco, I could waste everyones time and give my generalzations on how each group is doing compas wise, but I dont' really think it is fair. Understand, that it is a very small sampling of people that are into flamenco. So why not MORE PEOPLE into flamenco is the real question I think?
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