Anders Eliasson -> RE: All you LUTHIERS - neck angle and neck relief ? (Oct. 23 2013 6:27:23)
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Your other two questions are not germane to_ this_ discussion. Once again, we are discussing Brune's assertion that this was intentional to give a certain kind of raspy attack (he called it rajo, if I remember correctly). That was the whole point of the comment. First of all, the 2 questions would give the world or just me an idea of what you generally think about back bow, but after rereading the thread, I can see that you already answered the last one by saying that you make your guitars with very Little relief almost straight. Btw. good explanation by you and Jeff on why to much relief is not good. What you describe in the quote is called Rajeo. (you know with spanish j) and its exactly what I meant when I said that Sabicas buzzes ALL the time. Its very old school. Especially guitars set up for dance, were setup so that they have a lot of rajeo. It makes them more percussive. In solo playing, this is sometimes used by old school players to kill the tone. you know making this short percussive almost no vibration notes. Very few modern players if any wants that nowadays and especially when playing a lot of chords all over the fingerboard, (which old school players dont do very much) the guitar gets a very "dead" feel. Its not vibrating. Also, in general, it kills volume and projection. So, seing things in that light, I can understand that in some very specific uses, like Sabicas playing, that intentional backbow can have an effect. But it is looking for something really weird in todays light. Also it is a very controversial thing to say on a luthiery fórum. Its like if you were saying that the world is flat or that cars work better with square tyres.....[8D] So I dont think its making a mountain out of a mole or a storm in a glass of water. So last, just a question: would you setup a new guitar like that if thats what a client would want? I would say no because it goes very much against my perception of a good flamenco guitar
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