andresito -> that flamenco guitarist from the doors (Apr. 21 2007 4:40:00)
Hello people, While I was searching for some flamenco stuff I remembered someone on a documentary about the Doors saying how they were all great artists - a classically trained organist, jazz drummer, american modern poet and a flamenco guitarist... Now, I like the Doors and Robby's guitar playing, and I'm not accusing him of saying he is or was a flamenco meister, but it made me wonder about just how much the word 'flamenco' is bandied around, so I did some more searching and found this...
'Krieger learned to play guitar when he attended the Menlo School (a boarding school in the San Francisco Bay Area). He started by tuning a ukulele like the bottom four strings of a guitar and imitating a flamenco guitar record. Later he purchased a flamenco guitar on a Christmas vacation in Puerto Vallarta in 1963 and mastered the style without benefit of lessons. He gradually grew tired of playing flamenco guitar and helped form a jug band...'
Yes, I can see myself getting tired of playing flamenco guitar after I master 'the style' too...
from the same page, this is what Robby said about it -
'You were just noodling on guitar and that leads me to ask, how did you write "Spanish Caravan"? Robby Krieger : I started playing flamenco music before the Doors; it was the first kind of guitar music I ever played. About six months or a year before the Doors I started playing electric guitar, so I kind of put away the flamenco guitar, but I still liked to play it and I was looking for a way to get it into the Doors repertoire. I remembered this one song that everyone learns when they play flamenco, [so] I took that, changed it a little, bit, figured out a chorus and verse, and that's how it came about.' http://www.crystal-ship.com/entrevues.php?int=11
Rainer: How did you get the idea to write "Spanish Caravan"? Robby: Oh, from Flamenco stuff that I learned. A song called "Granadinas", which is a form that everybody learns, that's more classical. Rainer: So "Spanish Caravan" was a kind of cover version or a Spanish traditional? Robby: Yeah, in fact they sued us for it. The people who owned whatever song that came from, they tried to sue us for it, but they didn't get very much, cos it's such a widely known thing (sings the guitar solo from "Spanish Caravan"), but they claimed they owned this little something stupid.
and on the same page
'...me and John and this other guitarplayer, a friend of mine named David Wolfe, who was my guitar teacher... we both copied a terrible Flamenco record called "Dos Flamencos", it had these two guys playing flamenco together, and he taught me how to play the guitar.' http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/1409/robby.htm
here is a clip of him playing flamenco at a gig (recently)... I wish I got the same response when I play a solea!
TANúñez -> RE: that flamenco guitarist from the doors (Apr. 21 2007 4:58:00)
quote:
mastered the style without benefit of lessons
Funny [:D]
and that last link you posted is hilarious. I'm listening to the wrong artists [sm=rolleyes.gif]
andresito -> RE: that flamenco guitarist from the doors (Apr. 21 2007 5:10:12)
Yes, I'm glad I found this forum or my flamenco studies could have taken a serious wrong turn!
avimuno -> RE: that flamenco guitarist from the doors (Apr. 21 2007 5:33:44)
hahaha.... I agree with you TANunez, we should stop listeninig to Paco and al!!! Hail the great Robbio De Kriegeria!! Make no mistake, I love his playing for The Doors, but as a flamenco guitarist?!?! That solea was pathetic!
wester -> RE: that flamenco guitarist from the doors (Apr. 21 2007 7:48:52)
He had to be on something, perhaps an unprescibed pharmaceutical. Who else would have the temerity to sling that raw placenta upon an unsuspecting audience? Then again, the swooning meatheads in the front row deserved it.
westers.
Guest -> RE: that flamenco guitarist from the doors (Apr. 22 2007 4:35:23)
his 'solea' was friggin horrible[&:] it reminds me of when you first started learning and u just learnt some solea strumming and thought it sounded way cool and had to show everyone you knew. And then a few years later you look back and cant beleive how **** that would have sounded to the poor bastards that u made sit there and listen to it, but they of course told u it sounded great[:D] i guess he never got past the stage of thinking that the first thing he ever learnt sounded way cool and hence he didnt bother learning any more, maybe in his mind he already mastered flamenco with that[X(]
Guest -> RE: that flamenco guitarist from the doors (Apr. 22 2007 4:49:20)
[X(]....i just listened again
Guest -> RE: that flamenco guitarist from the doors (Apr. 22 2007 4:52:46)
washed up old hippy[&o]
andresito -> RE: that flamenco guitarist from the doors (Apr. 22 2007 7:36:59)
He did look a bit lost, wandering around on the stage without a 'compas' haha [;)]
