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Ricardo -> RE: Origins (Mar. 9 2007 3:56:51)
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Ok. first of all, the qawwali guys are from Pakistan, not India. They are in the style of Nushfrat ali kahn. The flamenco singers are "cameroneros". If you watch the DVD that they sell, there is a documentary. You discover the frustrations that occur when trying to make such a fusion.
Problem 1. The music from pakistan is RELIGIOUS. They are having to "fuse" their religious texts with the "profane" flamenco lyrics. It is borderline "blasphemy" to the Pakistani guys.
Problem 2. The music from pakistan is MODAL in nature, where as the music of flamenco is a hybrid. The SINGING can be modal at times, but the guitar is harmonic, tonal, western. Big problems arise when you try to "harmonize" with modal music. Chicuelo was very frustrated when he realized they did not use, need, or even want to relate the two musics by "chords". The Cantaors got along just fine singing saetas or martinetes with the Pakistani singer. That is "modal". No chords. But the guitar can't match unless it too behaves "modally". Flamenco fuses better with jazz or brazillian music for this reason. It all goes right along with the discussion regarding Manolo Sanlucar's book. Modal vs tonal and the way the guitar is used.
Anyway, I love the singing of Poveda and Duquende with Chicuelo, but to be honest, the best part of this concert was to me when the two musics were separate and "pure". I love modal music, and I love just the cante with guitar. But the actual "fusion" attempt did not really work for me.
Ricardo
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