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sianturi -> Why not learn cante (Feb. 18 2007 13:02:44)

Hi all,

why nobody is interested in learning cante? I'm aware there is a big barrier before you start to make your first ayyyy, but why not? The lyrics (in cante chico) are much fun, but of course you have to get them translated first before you understand them and then you need help from media or native speakers. In the Saura-movie 'Flamenco' there were some translations.

I started 3 years ago with 'Baila me' from Gipsy Kings and it was a lot of fun for me to perform it. Also the small audience (about 20 people) enjoyed it. The real flamenco stuff, like sevillanas, fandangos, bulerias, is more difficult, and cultural delta is more evident. You realize immediately when a singer doesn't has the original background. Listening to a guitar you need more time to find out. But then again, you have much bigger chances to delight an audience with singing than just with pure guitar.

So this is what I have in mind:
- Concering the guitar, keep focus on compas
- Learn a few lelele/ayayay 'falsetas' for sevillanas, fandangos, bulerias.
- Find the aire of the spanish letras, write new lyrics in my mother's language
- Prepare songs and perform them

What do you think about this approach?

Thanks,
Sianturi




legrec -> RE: Why not learn cante (Feb. 18 2007 13:47:21)

Hola!
I always wanted to learn cante...and i guess lot of folks on this foro also...
There were cante lessons in my own street (Marseille, France) but they stop this year, just when I was ready to start [:(]

Do someone have tried the Merenguito DVD ?
http://www.esflamenco.com/scripts/news/ennews.asp?frmIdPagina=398

"Que arañaba con las uñas
un niño com'un leóóóóóóóóón..."




duende -> RE: Why not learn cante (Feb. 18 2007 17:49:02)

quote:

you have much bigger chances to delight an audience with singing


harrrr harrrr you should hear me sing, that might change your mind[:D][:D][:D]

But seriously i like to sing a long to my cds i like to sing solea and fandangos de huelva and alegria, how ever it´s a realy pain to sing solea if you take away the cd, it´s so darn hard to keep the compas while singing

im not doing it to learn cante or thinking i wanna sing it to people but it realy helps you to get "in the" you know. also easyer to figure out accompaniments for the palos
you would accompany




Ricardo -> RE: Why not learn cante (Feb. 19 2007 0:50:22)

I sing lots of letras from here and there. In the shower I am great! In the car too. But playing guitar and singing, I can't focus on either one the way I would want. So in an informal juerga, if someone else plays pretty good, I might sing one or two letras of bulerias. But I have a big respect for real "singers" more than simply singing "because you know it". So I am a guitarist, not a singer and won't sing out in an actual gig or performance. I admit, singing, any style is a great "feeling", much easier to get your feelings out than on guitar. I just wish I was born with "a voice". If you know what I mean?

You would be surprised how many pro flamenco guitarists and dancers too, that are closet "cantaors" in private.

My advice for anyone serious about becoming a "flamenco singer" versus singing for fun or informal settins, is to record yourself and ask 3 questions:
1. Am I singing the "song" correct? Like in tune and in rhythm?
2. Is it "good" singing? Like the sound of the voice, the accent,, etc, authentic?
3. Would I want to listen to this along with other singers I like?

I think if you answer "no" to any of those, it would be best to keep working at it. Of course some folks are too self critical, but should ask advice of any professionals they know if in doubt.

All IMO of course!

Ricardo




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