Ricardo -> RE: Juan Martin (Feb. 17 2007 21:33:12)
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Are you confusing rhythm(I know how to spell it ) with compas. I agree with your point Romerito, but I have different terminology, at least I hope. It sounds like you may mean rhythm=tempo or steady tempo, and compas=meter/phrasing specific to flamenco. I think of Rhythm as a big umbrella including tempo, meter, groove, phrasing, style or special "swing", depending on the genre. "Compas" means the same, but all those things I listed, as applied to FLAMENCO specifically. In other words, the metronome will serve the same purpose in "rhythm" as "compas". It is simply training steady tempo. This needs to be worked on FIRST so the other elements have a purpose, a reference. True flamenco compas often involves a moving tempo, but how can one stretch time, or move the tempo deliberately, if they don't first understand how to keep a basic beat? Too many new students think of compas as so "different", so "exotic" compared to music they think is "easy" rhythm, and start learning the meter and phrasing (12 count cycle etc), ignoring the most important base: steady tempo. quote:
So Ricardo said, forget about the bike, but thats saying to someone in a wheelchair "Get up and walk normaly !" Well yeah man, "rhythm therapy"! But it starts with baby steps. Basic quarter notes ON THE BEAT with a metronome. Others are ready for crutches. (compas track or flamenco metronome). Some can limp. Some can walk. Still others are joggin, sprinting, long distance running. We are all at different stages, but none of us so unique. quote:
Take a simple reggae song, you will have to play offbeat. I cant do that nomatter how hard I try, ill end up on the beat. You think you are so special? The vast majority have the same problem. Just depends on if you WANT to improve or not, and how hard you are willing to work at it. Start with metronome slow, ON THE BEAT (ta ta ta ta ta etc). Can you REALLY do that? The click should disappear. If you can, then subdived, TWO NOTES per beat (taka taka taka taka). Keep it going. Then play only the second note for a while if you can (taka _ka _ka _ka_ka ). The click reappears! If you feel like you will lose it, go back on the beat (taka _ka _ka _ka losin it!_kaTA ta ta ta ta). If you lose it faster than that, do it shorter until you are perfect. (taka_ka_kaTA ta ta ta ). Keep trying for more "ka's" until you really can control them for a long time. Then speed up the tempo a little bit. Use 2/4/6 eighth notes to shift off or back on beat: taka -ka-ka-kaTA ta ta, or takataka-ka-ka-katakaTA ta ta ta, etc. Or 1,3,5 notes to stay put: ta ta ta, of course, takta ta ta ta, takatakta ta ta ta. etc. These are like drum rudiments. Some rare folks just "sense" these things, others need to work or drill them. Metronome if your best friend once you get into rhythm. Should be for every music student, any genre. Ricardo
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