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loop -> how to avoid the resonnance of A string? (Dec. 22 2006 2:43:32)

when i play the scale on the high strings, my right hand thumb press on the low e .but the A string always make high pitch resonance. how can i delete it? does it help with my pulgar push low E string into the A and D strings?

that make sense?



loop -> RE: how to avoid the resonnance of A string? (Dec. 25 2006 9:07:41)

nobody willing to answer my question? or nobody understand what i am saying?[:(]



Florian -> RE: how to avoid the resonnance of A string? (Dec. 25 2006 9:15:40)

hi sorry , i dont know much about this thing, i dont wanna give u any bad advice, i never came across that before



Francisco -> RE: how to avoid the resonnance of A string? (Dec. 25 2006 9:27:52)

I'm not understanding the question very well. Are you saying you rest your thumb on A or E when doing a scale on higher strings, and you're getting a noise from the string you're resting your thumb on? Man, I'm confused.



duende -> RE: how to avoid the resonnance of A string? (Dec. 25 2006 11:31:42)

put your thumb on it

i usualy do that and then as i move a long i move my thumb to the low E



loop -> RE: how to avoid the resonnance of A string? (Dec. 26 2006 2:20:52)

i have thought that use left hand i barre could be more helpful. but it is seems too hard when doing picado. not like the classical playing, flamenco seems ilegal to put righthand thumb leaning on the low strings surface to avoid those noise. imo put my thumb on to A string not very comfortable. thanks, duende.



Exitao -> RE: how to avoid the resonnance of A string? (Dec. 26 2006 2:58:38)

quote:

when i play the scale on the high strings, my right hand thumb press on the low e .but the A string always make high pitch resonance. how can i delete it? does it help with my pulgar push low E string into the A and D strings?

that make sense?


You are playing scales in the higher register, on the top frets. When you play string 6, string 5 resonates in sympathy. Is that what you're saying?

You wouldn't happen to be on the 5th fret when that happens? Or is it always happening?


I guess this is a question for the luthiers, but I've heard/read about open strings vibrating in simpathy to other strings. Is that avoidable in the manufacture, or is it always going to happen somewhere?

I would think that a rest stroke where the thumb rests on the E (5 string) would mute it. And that's what you were asking about when you say "pulgar push low E string," right?

Did you try your own ideas?



Anders Eliasson -> RE: how to avoid the resonnance of A string? (Dec. 26 2006 7:26:27)

Loop

I understand perfectly well what you say.



Truely theres not much you can do about it besides:

1) live with it
2) As Duende says, put the thumb on the 5th string. Yes its uncomfortable, but its something you should learn. Often when playing picado por medio, you´ll have a thumb strum or rasgueado beginning on the 5th string right afterwards, meaning that you should rest you thumb on the 5th string.
At first its also difficult to play rasgueados with the thumb resting on 5th string, but yoy get used to it.

3) Maybe its your guitar, so a question: does this happen when you play with a capo?



duende -> RE: how to avoid the resonnance of A string? (Dec. 26 2006 7:49:49)

if it´s uncomfortable it means you didn´t do it enough



loop -> RE: how to avoid the resonnance of A string? (Dec. 26 2006 11:08:31)

yes. i need do it enough maybe. it happen when play with a capo, i have to live with it.



Exitao -> RE: how to avoid the resonnance of A string? (Dec. 26 2006 17:21:49)

quote:

if it´s uncomfortable it means you didn´t do it enough


Can I borrow this? I am already thiking of many great uses in addition to music...



Francisco -> RE: how to avoid the resonnance of A string? (Dec. 27 2006 2:17:51)

[:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]



duende -> RE: how to avoid the resonnance of A string? (Dec. 27 2006 6:21:11)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Exitao

quote:

if it´s uncomfortable it means you didn´t do it enough


Can I borrow this? I am already thiking of many great uses in addition to music...



yea i had a smile on my face half way thru the sentence[:D][:D]



Anders Eliasson -> RE: how to avoid the resonnance of A string? (Dec. 27 2006 8:06:56)

quote:

if it´s uncomfortable it means you didn´t do it enough


sounds like my mom......[:-]



carlos soto -> RE: how to avoid the resonnance of A string? (Dec. 27 2006 19:12:04)

you can rest your thumb in the A string, muting the 6th and 5th string.
Other way you can do this is playing with your index finger as if you where doing cejillo all the way to the string you want to mute its resonnance, I don't find this easy to do if you are changing positions going up or down but you can do it, manolo sanlucar does this all the time when playing picado.



Ricardo -> RE: how to avoid the resonnance of A string? (Dec. 28 2006 1:08:47)

What kind of guitar do you play? I notice this more on classical guitars than flamenco guitars. A guitar with a good mid range made of cypress usually won't have "sympathetic strings" resonating so loud.

But if it is only a little bit, yes living with it is the option. Honestly that is part of the beauty of the sound of the guitar verses other string instruments or piano. I like the noises and sympathetic vibrations and harmonics.

Some other things to examine, how hard are playing your apoyando scale on the treble strings? Flamenco picado is meant to be hard driving, overpowering the sound of sympathetic strings. Also you might want to experiment with different string brands. But if you are playing on a loud sensative classical guitar, that could be the main issue.

EDIT, I just re read and saw you said high pitch resonance. Over tone harmonics. Sorry man that is just the way the guitar works. Like I said, I personally find that a beautiful part of the sound of the guitar, the sympathetic over tones. Often in flamenco, they create a wonderful dissonance in phrygian mode, that really is part of the sound. Learn how to use it to your advantage musically.

Ricardo



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