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AndrewE -> jerez style remate endings (Dec. 19 2006 22:57:38)

I usually end bulerias remates on beats 7-10 with albancio(Marote) style rasgueado. When I listen to a lot of Jerez plays they start on the + after the 7.
What are the common rasgueado used to do that, are they similar to galloping rasg. like used in Tangos( i,a,m,i)

Similar, with Alegria I usually play 2 basic rasg.(e,a,m,i,i) on beats 1 and 2. But i've heard a lot of alegria were the rasg. starts around the + after the 1. How are they played this way?

thanks,
Andrew



Ricardo -> RE: jerez style remate endings (Dec. 20 2006 6:04:55)

Several opitions. For bulerias you have
ai,pai,pai,p
or just two fingers, ai(down),i(up)ai,iai, i.
In both cases, you may notice the "spring" for the rhythm is 6+. Listen for it. You are cutting the head off the triplet, but you spring off the contra beat before.

There is also the quadruple time rasgueado (4stroke per beat).
am-p(down),P(up)am p P, am p P am,p.
And the same thing starting up, I like to do this one:
P am,p P am p, P am p P,am then close (mute the strings).

Also you can do a shorter one, but spring off of 6+(7)+, or two "+'s" later. Triplets would be:
ai,pai,p.
And quadruples would be P am, p P am p, P. That is a good one too.

Hope this made some sense. Good question/observation by the way.

Ricardo



Ricardo -> RE: jerez style remate endings (Dec. 20 2006 6:08:47)

Oh yeah, Alegrias. You can start on the + after one like this am,iiam,i. Obviouse the second i is up stroke. Again you usually will start this one if you accented 12+.

One I like from tomatito is normal 1,2,3 beats is amii,aiia,i. With gople on last "i". Very fun.

Ricardo



AndrewE -> RE: jerez style remate endings (Jan. 9 2007 21:38:18)

Thanks for the excellent rely Ricardo.

The Tomatito alegria rasg. is great.

I cannot figure out the last buleria quadruples pattern, is there a typo in it ?

Andrew



Ricardo -> RE: jerez style remate endings (Jan. 10 2007 19:50:28)

OOOOPS sorry. P am, p P am p, P. That is it! I will edit the original too, it was a typo.

One more thing, it is common to NOT stop on 10, but carry through sometimes accenting 10+, or going on longer. The type of remate you use may influence your decision to either stop or follow through, keeping the rhythm going. Also you can do some remate's a beat early, like on 6 or 6+, and end on 9. Tomatito does that one often too.

Ricardo



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Ricardo -> RE: jerez style remate endings (Jan. 11 2007 3:26:39)

quote:

Do you want any remates? Your title is Jerez style.


Huh????



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