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JBASHORUN -> Whats inside cajónes? (not cojones) (Nov. 13 2006 14:06:21)

Hey,

Does anyone know exactly whats inside a cajón? I mean is it just an empty box, or is there something magical inside? Also, is it made from "tonewood" (ie. wood specifically selected for its sound properties) or just any old plywood. Just curious about them because I've never actually thought about it. If its fairly simple to make, I might try making one myself- can anyone recommend some plans?

I think having a cajón and attemting to learn to play it might also improve my compas, que no? Without having to worry about chords and fingerings, I could just bash out raw rhythms on the cajon until it clicks. Are there any good, simple cajón tuition resources out there?

Any help gratefully appreciated!

James

ps: do they always have to be made from wood, or can other materials be used?



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Florian -> RE: Whats inside cajónes? (not cojones) (Nov. 13 2006 14:36:58)

i am pretty shure thers guitar strings inside



Georg -> RE: Whats inside cajónes? (not cojones) (Nov. 13 2006 14:38:09)

I have built one myself in a workshop.

Inside are guitar strings, and some have little bells in it (though unimportant).

The cajon originally was played in Peru by poor harbour workers, who used boxes where cod was transported. Then someone found out that adding strings gives a good sound. The name cajon means box or even coffin.[:D] When Paco came to Peru he liked it and used it for his songs. That's the short version of the history of the Perujan Cajon. There is also another one in Cuba without strings and the surface where you play on is on top.

I will probably build one again over the days of New Year's Eve.

Ah... I think we used solid spruce for it, but the front plate was birch.

Greets Georg



JBASHORUN -> RE: Whats inside cajónes? (not cojones) (Nov. 13 2006 15:43:48)

Guitar strings, eh? thats interesting!

Thanks Georg, but please tell me more... how are the strings positioned inside the cajon? And how do the strings affect the sound of the instrument? Also, are there any plans/drawings available that I can work from?

Vielen Dank!

James



Reece -> RE: Whats inside cajónes? (not cojones) (Nov. 13 2006 16:37:53)

http://www.ocanartesania.com/V2/pdf/articulos/building_cajon.pdf

[;)]



Anders Eliasson -> RE: Whats inside cajónes? (not cojones) (Nov. 13 2006 17:03:31)

That was a sweet link. [:)]

Thank you.



Ron.M -> RE: Whats inside cajónes? (not cojones) (Nov. 13 2006 17:05:26)

quote:

Whats inside cajónes?


A dead cat and a piece of half-eaten tortilla...[:D]

No, seriously though...a few years back, I had a go at building one.
I followed the advice for building materials and method of construction...but it sounded like sh*t. [:D]

I've never tried a "real" one to know what it should sound like, so I can't really tell if it's the cajón or the playing that's at fault.

cheers

Ron



sonikete -> RE: Whats inside cajónes? (not cojones) (Nov. 13 2006 17:07:58)

You could transport beer in them if you are travelling in a small car..



Georg -> RE: Whats inside cajónes? (not cojones) (Nov. 13 2006 17:20:06)

I had a short look at the link:

I don't think that you will have a decent snare sound with the kind of string attachment which the pdf file shows. We also used another technique to tune the cajon.

Tunig a cajon? Yes the strings must have the right tension to have produce the right effect.

There must be somewhere a pdf file in the net that shows the way I tighten the strings.
Ah yes: http://www.musik-fromm.de/cajon.pdf

It's written in German, so if you have problems, feel free to ask.



JBASHORUN -> RE: Whats inside cajónes? (not cojones) (Nov. 13 2006 17:52:52)

Thanks man! My mother speaks Deutsche, so I'll get her to translate.

But can anyone advise me as to what sound I'm trying to acchieve with my cajon (in regard to tone, snare, etc). I've never really seen/heard one in real life other than at the odd concert. And even then, I tend to be so busy listening to the guitar parts and singing that I don't pay the cajon much attention...

Cheers,

Jb



pablo requena -> RE: Whats inside cajónes? (not cojones) (Nov. 13 2006 18:22:50)

Hi James

I have a cajon in my shop in Lewes, you are very welcome to have a close look at it and try it out when you came down.


Pablo



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Georg -> RE: Whats inside cajónes? (not cojones) (Nov. 13 2006 19:12:50)

Listen to this one:

http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=1788662100348933719&q=cajon



Exitao -> RE: Whats inside cajónes? (not cojones) (Nov. 14 2006 3:13:44)

quote:

A dead cat and a piece of half-eaten tortilla...


OMFG! You made me snort Pepsi.

In supplement to GuxDiBux :

Caja = box

Cajon = 'big' box So what box is 'bigger' than a coffin?

'-on' is the opposite of a diminutive.



el ted -> RE: Whats inside cajónes? (not cojones) (Nov. 14 2006 8:05:37)

I have fitted the springs from a snare drum to the inside of mine, works great. In Spain I have seen them empty, some even open backed. Some filled with baffles and rattles made from flattened coca-cola cans, and even little bells.



JBASHORUN -> RE: Whats inside cajónes? (not cojones) (Nov. 14 2006 12:16:43)

Thank you kindly for all your contributions everyone! [:)]

And thanks again Pablo- I will be in touch soon.

cheers,

James



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