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duende -> RE: favorite tremolo poll (Nov. 12 2006 6:42:12)

ok

doublan campanas pdl
fuente y caudal


well ANY tremolo by Pdl that ISN`T of his first record. His tremolo was quite sucky then[:)]



Romanza -> RE: favorite tremolo poll (Nov. 12 2006 10:33:16)

i like Sabicas' tremolo opening for example Alma Gaditana (solea). Nice and retro sounding!



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guitartennis -> RE: favorite tremolo poll (Nov. 12 2006 11:39:33)

The one in cueva del gato by pdl. awesome song with great tremolo.



Ron.M -> RE: favorite tremolo poll (Nov. 12 2006 11:57:20)

I love this PdL trem (recorded off the telly).

www.btinternet.com/~flamenco/pacotrem1.mp3

It's so eerie and haunting and I love how the bass seems to be detached from the melody line.

Voodoo!


cheers

Ron



Romanza -> RE: favorite tremolo poll (Nov. 12 2006 12:57:49)

Ron, that link didn't seem to work. unless my computer's playing up..



ToddK -> RE: favorite tremolo poll (Nov. 12 2006 13:04:18)

Yeah Ron, the mp3 file is screwy. sounds like jibberish.



Ron.M -> RE: favorite tremolo poll (Nov. 12 2006 13:27:46)

Sorry Romanza y Todd....I've uploaded it again in a different res.
Use the edited link in my first post.
(The quality is terrible of course, since it was recorded holding a mic up to a TV loudspeaker.)

cheers

Ron



ToddK -> RE: favorite tremolo poll (Nov. 12 2006 13:35:01)

Wow, thats like warp factor 11!!!

You dont hear tremelo played that fast these days.

Mostly slow, and more galloping and romantic.

I like both. [:)]

Man, Paco must have had that second cup of java when he woke up that day[8D]



Miguel de Maria -> RE: favorite tremolo poll (Nov. 12 2006 13:56:26)

That sounds like the trem from Sabicas' Malaguena. I think I like Paco Pena's tremolo the most, it has a nice balance of feel and precision.

I think Tomatito had a very beautiful trem on a rondena, maybe the one to his uncle.



Crows -> RE: favorite tremolo poll (Nov. 12 2006 14:27:34)

Pitingo, track 3 does it for me at the moment.
Ole.



John O. -> RE: favorite tremolo poll (Nov. 12 2006 15:13:32)

PDL Tío Sabas, no question



Ricardo -> RE: favorite tremolo poll (Nov. 12 2006 20:00:07)

Oracion by Manolo Sanlucar. By far, no1 for me.
Yerma by Gerardo Nuñez.

That Paco upload was as Miguel said probably note for note Sabicas. But the melody is obviously the Malagueña of LECUONA, not the real flamenco Malagueña.

Ricardo



Patrick -> RE: favorite tremolo poll (Nov. 12 2006 20:17:05)

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Oracion by Manolo Sanlucar. By far, no1 for me


Without a doubt the best ever.



Ron.M -> RE: favorite tremolo poll (Nov. 12 2006 20:44:36)

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That Paco upload was as Miguel said probably note for note Sabicas.


Ricardo,
Well, not quite note for note...The Sabicas one is OK but a bit "dainty" to my ear, but nonetheless very very good.
Lot's of older players (e.g. Paco Peña etc) can play that one as a standard.

Paco's version, to me is pure voodoo!!

No one has ever played it like this.
(And he was only 21-22 at the time..[:D] )

Here's the full piece for those who haven't heard it.
As I said, I recorded it off the TV way back where he was a guest on a late night Spanish Society show from London, so the quality's poor, but the playing totally fantastic in the way that only Paco does....

I've never heard a record of it played the same way, although the early Paco/Ramon LP has a similar sound/delivery IMO.

As I said.... Voodoo!! [:D]

www.btinternet.com/~flamenco/PdL1969.mp3

cheers

Ron



sonikete -> RE: favorite tremolo poll (Nov. 12 2006 20:57:16)

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Oracion by Manolo Sanlucar. By far, no1 for me.


I have to agree on that, that does it for me too. The trémolo from Jesús del Rosario´s Blanca is a favorite too, for something more recent but it doesnt come close to M. Sanlúcar.

quote:

Paco's version, to me is pure voodoo!!


Yes, it´s great! Thanks for uploading that!



TANúñez -> RE: favorite tremolo poll (Nov. 12 2006 21:48:22)

Oracion by Manolo Sanlucar. Clean and well executed. The best I've heard.



Ricardo -> RE: favorite tremolo poll (Nov. 13 2006 3:12:49)

Paco was not always my favorite as far as tremolo, in terms of the technique, but he always had great expression anyways. Like when he did Ramon Montoya. A lot of what Paco did was more clear and intense, but the tremolo of Ramon was much stronger, cleaner, to me.

This Malaguena Paco was combining 2 arrangements together. Thanks for sharing it! I love Paco so much from that period. Arround this time he did almost that same arrangement, but for 5 GUITARISTS! That is really cool to hear too, they harmonize and do rhythm back up, even that tremolo is harmonized. Then Paco rips out those same picados at the end. Sounds like the guitar ensemble of the gods, but at the same time "too much of a good thing".

Ricardo



andante -> RE: favorite tremolo poll (Nov. 13 2006 4:18:59)

I think I've heard Gerardo Nunez play the tremelo from Yerma three times. Each time I was absolutely struck dumb. You'd think hearing it twice before (and countless times on the CD) would have prepared me, but not so. I remember there were quite a few gasps from other members of the audience too during the pauses.

I've heard Paco Pena's tremelo up close on one occasion when he was giving a talk, and his control is also impressive. He can suddenly halt the tempo or play very soft, all the time maintaining that perfectly even sound that you hear on his records. The Aire just drips from his fingers.

My favourite tremelo though has to be Vicente Amigo "Ventanas al Alma". It's as if the entire minera is a slow build up to that one sublime section.



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MarkMc -> RE: favorite tremolo poll (Nov. 13 2006 8:10:00)

for me Paco Pena also. Especially on his album: Flamenco guitar music of Ramon Montoya and Nino Ricardo.

but then again, I've never heard Oracion by Manolo Sanlucar, hehe [8D]



JBASHORUN -> RE: favorite tremolo poll (Nov. 14 2006 12:40:11)

I'm quite fond of the short tremolo interlude at 0:53 in "Mi Inspiracion", by PDL. But the whole song is great too IMO.

Sabicas does some good ones aswell.

Jb



Phil -> RE: favorite tremolo poll (Nov. 14 2006 17:15:35)

My absolute favorite is Oracion by Manolo Sanlucar on the Tauromagia album. In fact, I think this is one of the most beautiful and moving guitar pieces that I've ever heard in any genre.

Phil



Ricardo -> RE: favorite tremolo poll (Nov. 14 2006 22:10:38)

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I'm quite fond of the short tremolo interlude at 0:53 in "Mi Inspiracion", by PDL.

Borrowed from Sabicas, but he does in A major I think.



JBASHORUN -> RE: favorite tremolo poll (Nov. 22 2006 20:49:52)

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quote:

I'm quite fond of the short tremolo interlude at 0:53 in "Mi Inspiracion", by PDL.
Borrowed from Sabicas, but he does in A major I think.


Ricardo, what Sabicas song did PDL borrow the tremolo interlude from? or does Sabicas have a version of Mi Inspiracion I haven't come across yet?

Cheers,

Jb



ykabban -> RE: favorite tremolo poll (Nov. 23 2006 0:12:42)

I wanted to upload my fav. tremolo, but seems I can't do that here.

Any ideas??............help[&o]. Why do I suck at the computer?



c -> RE: favorite tremolo poll (Nov. 23 2006 0:26:59)

I also am unable to upload files
so I put them on savefile and then provide the linkhttp://www.savefile.com/



ykabban -> RE: favorite tremolo poll (Nov. 23 2006 0:46:12)

Thanks c.

Other than live in concert, I've yet hear a tremolo come on in such devastating fashion as this one......

http://www.savefile.com/files/282725



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