I hate these kind of descriptions but i don't know any other way to ask you what i have in mind...so, if you were allowed to bring only 2 flamenco songs with you on a far far far away...freakin desert island :)))) , which ones would that be ?
here is my choice : Paco&Tomatito&Camaron - Tu amor para mi no es fantasia PDL - Cepa Andaluza
Ricardo -> RE: Top flamenco tunes (Nov. 8 2006 20:55:49)
Tercio de Vara-by Manolo Sanlucar Jucal-Gerardo Nuñez
sonikete -> RE: Top flamenco tunes (Nov. 8 2006 22:49:03)
Jesus, what a nightmare, two songs on a desert island?
Potro de rabia y miel - Camarón A Bulería from Raza y Compas - Fernanda y Bernarda
BTW Do you play Jucal Ricardo? I just learned it but some of the fingerings in the tab where a bit strange ..
Guest -> [Deleted] (Nov. 8 2006 23:10:01)
[Deleted by Admins]
sonikete -> RE: Top flamenco tunes (Nov. 8 2006 23:15:22)
I would have preferred being alone on an island with a guitar and two women instead [8D]
Ricardo -> RE: Top flamenco tunes (Nov. 9 2006 7:21:04)
quote:
Do you play Jucal Ricardo? I just learned it but some of the fingerings in the tab where a bit strange ..
Yep. The fingerings are mostly correct, but he has a few timing mistakes, if you are going by Faucher's book.
I made a discovery that Faucher makes DELIBERATE timing mistakes so he can figure out who steals his transcriptions. Interested in the story?
Any questions on specific fingering, just ask.
quote:
Tomatito- a mi tio "el nino miguel"-bulerias
That would have been my 6th desert island choice.
sonikete -> RE: Top flamenco tunes (Nov. 9 2006 10:21:16)
I usually rely more on listening to the recording than on tabs, but i wanted to get that solo right. Because its one of my all time favorites
It was mainly the part at 00:45 in the beginning, there are some broken chords in the tab and an awkward position shift in a way classical guitarists might do. I play that part using whole chords and an open string instead and that feels a lot smoother, so i wondered if you did it at the masterclass with him, and know the way its supposed to be, I cant really tell from the video at that speed.
Funny if faucher wants to track down who copies his transcriptions, id like to hear the story, i have seen copies of his tabs taking classes from guitarists from granada to madrid so he will have to hunt down some fine guitarists..
Ricardo -> RE: Top flamenco tunes (Nov. 9 2006 18:15:10)
quote:
It was mainly the part at 00:45 in the beginning, there are some broken chords in the tab and an awkward position shift in a way classical guitarists might do. I play that part using whole chords and an open string instead and that feels a lot smoother, so i wondered if you did it at the masterclass with him, and know the way its supposed to be, I cant really tell from the video at that speed.
If you are going by Faucher's book, page 32, then yeah it is correct. The C#m7, barre 4th, reach up to 9th fret, then jump down to 2nd position barre 2. That is correct. Not a hard jump really. You are "riding" the contra beat, so you have a full beat to make that jump.
You saw that spot in the youtube video right? Because he is barring, you have to play E on 5th fret. I guess it is not wrong to use the open string and let go of the barre, but that is not what he does. It is a very typical "flamenco" thing to hold the barre and position and reach for notes. Only thing is I think he plays open E WITH the B bass note the first time. Faucher has only the base note. The B maj7 is not barred. Then the next measure A#m7b5, and he does a little different nowadays than written. Not clear what he plays on CD, but this is what I play there:
Hey...that sounds jazzy.[&:][:D] Here is the vid again, he plays that part towards the end. But it is playback remember.
The part you want is at 1:07. Hey I just saw he keeps the A# in the bass like Faucher has it. But I like my way. "ricardo style".[;)]
duende -> RE: Top flamenco tunes (Nov. 9 2006 20:40:39)
La Barossa Bulerias de la Perla (camarón)
Guest -> [Deleted] (Nov. 9 2006 20:45:32)
[Deleted by Admins]
sonikete -> RE: Top flamenco tunes (Nov. 9 2006 20:54:48)
quote:
Hey...that sounds jazzy.
Ha ha ha, well some people get away with it ... Thanks!
Ricardo -> RE: Top flamenco tunes (Nov. 9 2006 21:06:44)
quote:
La Barossa
That would have been number 3 for me. Number 4 Soniquete from Zyrab. Number5 Maria Vargas live with Paco Cepero por bulerias.
Why can't I just take my 60gig IPOD and a solar powered battery charger to the desert Island?[&:]
Ricardo
Miguel de Maria -> RE: Top flamenco tunes (Nov. 9 2006 21:07:54)
Can I get a "hollaz" for Serranito's Tarantas?
duende -> RE: Top flamenco tunes (Nov. 9 2006 21:33:42)
quote:
Why can't I just take my 60gig IPOD and a solar powered battery charger to the desert Island?
now, that would be to much jazz![:@]
TANúñez -> RE: Top flamenco tunes (Nov. 9 2006 22:10:30)
Man I would be screwed then because I just can't pick two. I love so many I wouldn't be able to decide which two.
Something by Tomatito or Moraito, and something off Ricardo's rumba CD, Azul y Blanco. Seriously Rich. If you read this, it's a damn good CD. It's been in my car stereo for I don't know how long now. Put's me in a great mood. So, if I was stranded, something off this cd would make it barable(sp?)[:)]
Ricardo -> RE: Top flamenco tunes (Nov. 9 2006 22:14:34)
quote:
something off Ricardo's rumba CD, Azul y Blanco.
hmm, if I was stranded on an island with THAT, I think I would just have to end it.[&:]
TANúñez -> RE: Top flamenco tunes (Nov. 9 2006 22:23:17)
Aw don't say that. It's good man. You have any plans to come out with something else? Flamenco album?
Guest -> [Deleted] (Nov. 9 2006 22:39:22)
[Deleted by Admins]
Ricardo -> RE: Top flamenco tunes (Nov. 10 2006 3:37:06)
quote:
Hopefully, agujetas and rafael de utrera would be on the same plane as me. We would all survive and I would be forced to learn how to accompany well.
[&:] Sounds like a freakin nightmare! I think you would be killed and eaten very quickly. Funny about Agujetas vs Raf. Utrera. I have a personal story, but maybe one day I will tell it, not now.[8D]
Guest -> [Deleted] (Nov. 10 2006 3:43:16)
[Deleted by Admins]
duende -> RE: Top flamenco tunes (Nov. 10 2006 5:18:21)
I would be scared of Agujetas[&:]
Guest -> [Deleted] (Nov. 10 2006 5:39:23)
[Deleted by Admins]
Ricardo -> RE: Top flamenco tunes (Nov. 10 2006 7:26:23)
Trapped on an island with Agujetas sounds scary. Maybe safer with Diego (nice one missing a finger) than Manuel. I mean the guy (M. Agujeta) is perfectly happy singing Martinete, he doesn't need a guitarist to live there eating his coconuts a pestering him about all the different Solea! And maybe you did not hear the rumour of how he beat up his guitarist that gave him a wrong chord?
I would prefer to be trapped on the island with La Singla, who of course got caught in a time warp in 1967 first before washing up on shore, 2006.[;)]
Guest -> [Deleted] (Nov. 10 2006 7:40:33)
[Deleted by Admins]
HMaN -> RE: Top flamenco tunes (Nov. 13 2019 15:28:25)
