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Miguel de Maria -> buzz help? (Jul. 4 2006 16:51:06)

Okay, I changed the strings on my guitar, and eventually noticed that the high e string was buzzing when i played it open. I changed the string to another brand and it still did it. The buzz occurs when I play it more than mf open, and if I play fairly hard fretted on 1. I guess that means there is something wrong with the nut? Any ideas on how to narrow down the problem?

Thanks.



Doitsujin -> RE: buzz help? (Jul. 4 2006 18:16:00)

You could put a paper under the head-bone but it will become more difficult to play the guitar al aire.
In general I think its ok if a flamencoguitar snares a bit.



Exitao -> RE: buzz help? (Jul. 4 2006 21:38:05)

Is it buzzing against a particular fret? And is that fret the same height as the others?



Ramón -> RE: buzz help? (Jul. 5 2006 4:36:18)

Tension change? Changing strings - not all strings are the same gauge. My Rodriguez seems to prefer Reg' Tension, D'Addario Composite. I tried Hard Tension Galli Composite - nooooo...way too 'tinny' - and they buzzed.

Did you pull ALL the strings off at once? Or one at a time? If you took them all off, it can take awhile to settle in. That may be it, too.

And do NOT add paper under the saddle or bridge nuts. If you have to shim, shim with ebony wood or make a new bone piece (harder to do on a bridge nut).....

Just things I've learned...[8D]

Ramon



XXX -> RE: buzz help? (Jul. 5 2006 12:52:57)

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ORIGINAL: Ramón


And do NOT add paper under the saddle or bridge nuts. If you have to shim, shim with ebony wood or make a new bone piece (harder to do on a bridge nut).....

Just things I've learned...[8D]

Ramon


Because of the sustain?
Hm, i have paper under bridge and under saddle. Its just a tiny little bit of paper, i dont know how i could find such thin wood?



Ramón -> RE: buzz help? (Jul. 5 2006 13:27:28)

I had a luthier 'set up' my guitar, and when he pulled the bridge nut off, he found a slim piece of very soft wood.... The look he gave me.....[:(]

Sort of answered the question of using soft wood or paper. Up to you, though!!

A better wood supply store, maybe hobby, order something small fom eBay (Luthiers/Building Kits) - someone there might make you a piece to thickness, a guitar shop that services, a cabinet shop.... I made an ebony one once. Just a small sanding block I made, razor blade....super thin.

For all the effort, best to have another nut made that you can have as a backup. I now have 3 or 4 in a box of 'parts'....

Good luck!



Doitsujin -> RE: buzz help? (Jul. 5 2006 13:28:59)

Paper under the bridge isnt good, coz there the vibration is transmitted from the strings to the soundboard. But under the saddle (top of the guitr) its really no problem.
You could use flat Steirchhoelzer. Or plastic from a CD box.



Guest -> RE: buzz help? (Jul. 5 2006 17:07:08)

f the string buzzes when you play on the first fret, the problem is NOT the nut. This only affects open strings.

Sean



Doitsujin -> RE: buzz help? (Jul. 5 2006 18:54:54)

If the cejilla doesnt fit perfect or is less tighted, it could snare, too.



Miguel de Maria -> RE: buzz help? (Jul. 5 2006 19:08:52)

Well, it looks like it was the nut after all.

The diagnosis is complex because I changed strings, and the action is low anyway. I changed from high tens. Galli to high tens. Savarez. The Savarez had the buzz and it also had defective tuning. Then I put in a med. tens. La Bella. The buzz was worse. Now I put on some extra high tens. D'Addario. Still buzz. Then I put a shim of 1 layer of paper under the string. Buzz is gone!

It looks like I gave misinformation because the 1st fret buzz was probably unrelated. It's been humid around here, I hope that is the problem. I don't like playing with extra high tension strings!



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