Paco de Málaga tribute (Full Version)

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Ricardo -> Paco de Málaga tribute (Aug. 6 2026 15:33:15)

I posted this last week and got zero feedback so I guess folks missed it (or thought it sucked? [:D]). So just in case people missed it, I decide to repost in a new topic.

This audio was recorded in 2012 at Todd K's studio. I got the score (made by his student Stuart) and a private lesson from Paco to learn this composition. He had composed it in 2009 as an homenaje for his friend and teacher Ramón de Algeciras (PDL's oldest brother) which included some falsetas of Ramón, his dad Antonio Sanchez, and Niño Ricardo style material. Paco de Malaga was having trouble with his hands and wanted to hire me (and ToddK engineer) to record it for him in order to gift it to Paco de Lucía who was coming on tour to DC in April of 2012. I did not have much time to work on it so this thing was a huge challenge for me to get it together by the deadline.

I never released it as this seemed to be a very private personal thing for PDM and PDL family. As far as I know, PDL did listen to it when he got back to Mexico, not sure if he like it or it was emotional/nostalgic or what. I found the recording and decided to release it as a dedication to PDM and his wife Ana Martínez with a video montage of photos, since both passed in may this year. In 2013 I had considered making a video playing it but never got around to it and was composing my own material so I have long since forgotten these falsetas.




rombsix -> RE: Paco de Málaga tribute (Aug. 6 2026 17:22:19)

Me gusta!



BarkellWH -> RE: Paco de Málaga tribute (Aug. 6 2026 18:00:55)

Thanks for posting that, Ricardo. I have already expressed my wife Marta's and my gratitude for the years of our friendship with Paco and Ana, and for Paco's flamenco guitar lessons.

A couple of facts regarding Paco and Ana's lives and careers that you are no doubt aware of but others may not be. First, Paco never knew his father, as his father was executed five months before Paco was born by Franco's forces in the Spanish Civil War.

Second, I'm glad your video showed a clip of Paco and Ana wearing the "Cruz de Oficial de la Real Orden de Isabel la Catolica." It was conferred upon them by the King of Spain (via the Spanish Embassy) for their lifetime of promoting Spanish culture through their music and dance.

It was an honor to have known them and called them friends.

Bill



Arash -> RE: Paco de Málaga tribute (Aug. 6 2026 19:12:41)

missed this indeed. holy sh!t, it is really beautiful. and extremely well played



metalhead -> RE: Paco de Málaga tribute (Aug. 6 2026 20:02:49)

I heard this a week ago on your Youtube. Very good playing indeed and great composition too by PdM.



metalhead -> RE: Paco de Málaga tribute (Aug. 6 2026 20:05:47)

quote:

I got the score (made by his student Stuart) and a private lesson from Paco to learn this composition.


Nice to know that even people like you need scores to learn material. Curious why you'd need a lesson though?



Ricardo -> RE: Paco de Málaga tribute (Aug. 7 2026 15:26:04)

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Curious why you'd need a lesson though?


Paco did not read music and likely was dubious about the quality of the score and what it might convey from one student to the other. Basically he wanted to make sure the sound was what HE wanted me to record or that I was using the correct fingerings, etc. This was "his baby" so understanding that I have my own way to play things, he just wanted to make sure I got as close as possible to his vision of it. In the end I think he was very surprised at how well those fly droppings on the page could convey the falsetas he created. I learned a lot from the experience honestly.

Thanks for the feedback everybody!



Arash -> RE: Paco de Málaga tribute (Aug. 7 2026 20:06:15)

btw, kudos to Todd. Even though the recording is clean and "modern" , it is very dry and puro which matches the piece and intention perfectly , I only hear very minimal touch of reverb, and not the usual over the top effects.



Ricardo -> RE: Paco de Málaga tribute (Aug. 8 2026 19:14:07)

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ORIGINAL: Arash

btw, kudos to Todd. Even though the recording is clean and "modern" , it is very dry and puro which matches the piece and intention perfectly , I only hear very minimal touch of reverb, and not the usual over the top effects.


yes he had the ear for flamenco guitar so I really never trusted any other engineers as much as him, I just sat and played. It was around this time (2012-13) that I did the blind fold test on myself with his help. Wondering which of my guitars OBJECTIVELY sounded the most flamenco or whatever (out of 5 very different instruments). I was shocked that once filtered, even in his very natural dry setting, I could not discern which guitar was which.

This might be fun to have people guess which guitar I used on THIS recording? I remember clearly and biased now when I hear it, but nobody else knows, so I offer these options:

1. Modern Conde negra (2000)
2. Sanchis (maple, 2005)
3. 1973 Sobrinos de esteso
4. Modern Conde blanca (1997)
5. Jeronimo Peña negra (1971)
6. Max Bishop (2014, lawson cypress aka port Orford)



Arash -> RE: Paco de Málaga tribute (Aug. 8 2026 21:16:15)

My guess would be the Sanchis. The basses sound more like a Sanchis to me than Conde.
If it is not the Sanchis, my second guess would be the Max Bishop (I am not familiär with the Max Bishop but it is the only other choice for me since it is not any of the Condes, and it is definately a blanca. So it is one of these two for sure



Ricardo -> RE: Paco de Málaga tribute (Aug. 10 2026 16:18:30)

nope. Any more guesses?



Arash -> RE: Paco de Málaga tribute (Aug. 10 2026 16:21:03)

lmao, damn

plot twist, it was a yamaha borrowed from a student



Ricardo -> RE: Paco de Málaga tribute (Aug. 10 2026 16:23:22)

[:D] no, it is on the list. Here is Max Bishop for comparison, the one I recorded at Todds was used in the Taranta video.

http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=357428&appid=&p=&mpage=1&key=max%2Cbishop&tmode=&smode=&s=#357428

Any more guesses?



aloysius -> RE: Paco de Málaga tribute (Aug. 12 2026 5:12:26)

Awesome work, that would require a lot of stamina especially with a tight deadline.

My guess is the Conde blanca?



Ricardo -> RE: Paco de Málaga tribute (Aug. 12 2026 14:26:26)

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My guess is the Conde blanca?


nope. meaning, it was not the sanchis or Bishop nor this one:



Anymore guesses? three guitars left. [:D]



Estevan -> RE: Paco de Málaga tribute (Aug. 12 2026 18:11:34)

quote:

I posted this last week and got zero feedback so I guess folks missed it (or thought it sucked? )

Yes, missed it first time, so thanks for re-posting; and it definitely didn't suck, though to say the opposite would be using the wrong word [8|]

Very nice piece, awesome playing, fine sound! Ole tú! - and Todd.



Arash -> RE: Paco de Málaga tribute (Aug. 26 2026 12:20:37)

so ?
seems like no more guesses are coming
was it the esteso?



Ricardo -> RE: Paco de Málaga tribute (Aug. 26 2026 17:31:38)

yes.
quote:

3. 1973 Sobrinos de esteso



machopicasso -> RE: Paco de Málaga tribute (Sep. 17 2026 2:08:35)

quote:

I posted this last week and got zero feedback so I guess folks missed it


I'm late to the party, but I really enjoyed listening to that. I like the piece, as a composition (and/or your interpretation of it), and the playing is rock solid. Nice work.



Ricardo -> RE: Paco de Málaga tribute (Sep. 17 2026 12:12:23)

Thanks!



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