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Ricardo -> RE: Bulerias in 6 (Jun. 5 2026 12:14:40)
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Is that also normally the best way to count medio compás in a 12 beat bulerias?
It is fine to internalize or feel through out, however, at any moment the Soleá phrase might pop in which has to be that 1-10+2 count thing. So I recommend you feel it that way but consider "counting" a separate thing. You need to know where 7 is relative to your internal "feeling" of beat tempo and phrasing, at all times, just in case. A looped six phrase might be conceived "dos, siete ocho nueve diez un dos, siete ocho nueve diez un dos" etc., which only makes sense if you have that soleá phrase internalized to such a degree that it is clear you are cutting out part of it and looping the ending.
With many maestros they are only feeling the beat, and some even only count slow the 6,8,10 as "un, do, tre", so when you ask them that more complex question "is that falseta ending start between 7 and 8?", they might not know. Only when the Soleá type phrase enters will it be clear to them that there is "1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 y 10" going on. So think of counting more like a secret code language or something, that is separate from the basic rhythm. Guitarists that play for dance professionally as their main gig usually have the counting more concrete in their heads as it is an important tool for communicating with the boss (the choreographer). But maestros that mostly play for cante don't use it much at all.
When I transcribe a falseta that has media compás, I make a conscious effort to understand it and assign the correct numbers, so it might be the case that it is in fact a repeat from count 6 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,6,7,8,9,10.) or repeat of the first part (12,1,2,3,4,5,12,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10.), it really depends on the phrase itself. A clue might be an unusual accent on count 9 all of a sudden, that could be truly the 3 that repeated. But at the end of the day the numbers or counting is just an intellectual tool and you need to internalize the feeling.
in case you missed it here is a demo of strict 12 count vs forced half compas phrases.
http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=285237&appid=&p=&mpage=3&key=half%2Ccompas&tmode=&smode=&s=#285708
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