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Arash -> max. picado speed potential test? (Dec. 4 2025 11:54:42)

What do you think about this?




Ricardo -> RE: max. picado speed potential test? (Dec. 4 2025 12:10:22)

This is the best video on the internet.

The only thing I disagree with is that nail shape affects more the arpegio and tremolo stuff than picado (because you can push through a bad shape). Also you can in fact increase that single finger pulse speed overtime (I did but it took a long time using metronome, and that top number doesn't count unless you are consistent and even), and the thing about coordinating two fingers to get closer to your "limit", is how fast you can SAY verbally the rhythm you want to play. Again I supply Paco's vocalization of Alegria's picado while he does palmas is the same speed his brain forces his fingers to move. If you can't say it, you can't really control it.




devilhand -> RE: max. picado speed potential test? (Dec. 12 2025 23:37:03)

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Paco's vocalization of Alegria's picado

It sounds like tktktktktk

takatakatakataka......tkatkatkatka....tktktktk

tktktktk is 16th note picado at around 150 bpm or above.
tkatkatka 100-150 bpm
takataka <100 bpm



Ricardo -> RE: max. picado speed potential test? (Dec. 14 2025 14:34:03)

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tktktktk is 16th note picado at around 150 bpm or above.
tkatkatka 100-150 bpm


Paco is verbalizing that around 190bpm, close or a bit faster to the speed he performs it.



hamia -> RE: max. picado speed potential test? (Jan. 1 2026 12:42:15)

once you have picado mastered - and I've only got it half mastered so far (no chuckling at the back), but enough to pontificate upon - then you have the power to not worry about nails or lack of nails - the power is substantial.

I'm not sure Paco spent much time playing in the streets. Small boys in the park, jumpers for goalposts - doubtful...



devilhand -> RE: max. picado speed potential test? (Feb. 28 2026 17:07:59)

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and I've only got it half mastered so far

After 2 decades? A few days ago I read in a 20 year old foro thread you already started practicing picado according to GM method.
Something is wrong with his advice. We know why.



kitarist -> RE: max. picado speed potential test? (Feb. 28 2026 17:35:31)

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ORIGINAL: devilhand

quote:

and I've only got it half mastered so far

After 2 decades? A few days ago I read in a 20 year old foro thread you already started practicing picado according to GM method.


You are such a smellfungus. I am assuming "arsewhole" will get starred (heheh defeated)



Stu -> RE: max. picado speed potential test? (Mar. 4 2026 10:02:34)

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Small boys in the park, jumpers for goalposts
[:D]

decent 90s british comedy reference there!



Stu -> RE: max. picado speed potential test? (Mar. 4 2026 10:09:10)

"A smellfungus is a habitual, captious fault-finder, grumbler, or chronic complainer who finds fault in everything. Coined by Laurence Sterne in 1768 to satirize Tobias Smollett, it refers to someone who smells out a "fungus" (fault) even where none exists"

Not sure I'd ever heard this insult! but good work! I had to look it up to be sure although its meaning was evident

I'll smell some fungus of my own...
quote:

A few days ago I read in a 20 year old foro thread


You're reading 20 year old foro threads then using the info within to patronise and critique other members? No wonder you are still stuck in arrogant beginner mode, why dont you spend more time playing and learn some humilty



Stu -> RE: max. picado speed potential test? (Mar. 5 2026 8:59:50)

Aw jeez that Paco vid! something about La Barossa man. dunno what. I know im not some herald proclaming the good news.... but Paco was really quite good![:D][:D]

Effortless. Guess I just kinda forgot how much of genius he was.



rombsix -> RE: max. picado speed potential test? (Mar. 6 2026 23:23:10)

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Paco was really quite good


Really!? I had no clue. [8D][:D]



Stu -> RE: max. picado speed potential test? (Mar. 8 2026 15:33:28)

[:D]

So how does drawing that calculation from one of your fingers tapping hold up?

I know he multiples by 2 but that's assuming both fingers will play their part.... based on one finger's tap speed
Seems lke there are some variables that wild come into play when the second finger joins in.



Ricardo -> RE: max. picado speed potential test? (Mar. 10 2026 14:13:11)

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ORIGINAL: Stu

[:D]

So how does drawing that calculation from one of your fingers tapping hold up?

I know he multiples by 2 but that's assuming both fingers will play their part.... based on one finger's tap speed
Seems lke there are some variables that wild come into play when the second finger joins in.


It is a decent gauge in general for your controlled top speed with long phrases. Both m and i should be used incase one is slower, that finger will be the speed limit. Phrases in short bursts or with pull offs mixed in will naturally push faster. Like in drumming the straight sticking alternation is gauged for speed not phrases like diddles and rolls.



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