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eccullen -> A DOUMENTARY (Sep. 3 2025 22:24:22)
This is a documentary that I haven't seen mentioned here before. Very nice. Pedro Cortes, Diego Amador and son, Jesus Montoya, etc... Enjoy

Ricardo -> RE: A DOUMENTARY (Sep. 4 2025 11:52:13)
I assume it was this one?

eccullen -> RE: A DOUMENTARY (Sep. 5 2025 0:59:23)
Oops! Yes, this is the one. Thanks for adding it...

Ricardo -> RE: A DOUMENTARY (Sep. 5 2025 11:47:34)
It is copyright 2021, and only just uploaded? I wonder if it had been screened or released years ago? The footage for example of Jesus is very old, he did not perform much like this after his heart surgery in 2015. So this seems many years in the making. Odd that the producers did not credit the people they interviewed like normal documentaries. Maybe because I am from USA scene and that is the focus of this documentary (not including the spanish visitors, but obviously they were interviewed in the states), but there were several cringe moments for me. [:D] But thanks for bringing it to our attention anyway, I didn't know about it and just worked with Pedro a few months ago.

devilhand -> RE: A DOUMENTARY (May 25 2026 0:32:57)
quote: This is a documentary that I haven't seen mentioned here before. Very nice. Pedro Cortes, Diego Amador and son, Jesus Montoya, etc... Enjoy A weird docu with a misleading title. At 35:10 what is post PdL? This guy sounds like he is flamenco. Btw, anyone know the title of this documentary?

Ricardo -> RE: A DOUMENTARY (May 25 2026 14:25:51)
quote: At 35:10 what is post PdL? This guy sounds like he is flamenco. That is Pedro Cortes jr. He is saying things changed after Paco de Lucía changed the song forms and established new norms. He feels many people start playing flamenco in the modern style and are disconnected from the tradition. The dividing line would be the 1980s era flamenco.

devilhand -> RE: A DOUMENTARY (May 25 2026 15:29:15)
quote: He feels many people start playing flamenco in the modern style and are disconnected from the tradition. Yes. That's what I got when I first heard it. I don't like the way he uses Paco's name to describe what's traditional and not traditional. It sounds almost like he's blaming Paco for it. The fact that the doc is called Flamenco - Passion in danger makes it even worse.

Ricardo -> RE: A DOUMENTARY (May 27 2026 11:58:24)
quote: I don't like the way he uses Paco's name to describe what's traditional and not traditional You don't have to "like" historical facts.

Stu -> RE: A DOUMENTARY (May 27 2026 13:11:48)
[:D] the modern classic..... "facts dont care about your feelings"

Ricardo -> RE: A DOUMENTARY (May 27 2026 14:06:08)
quote: ORIGINAL: Stu [:D] the modern classic..... "facts dont care about your feelings" What is interesting from my new historical perspective, is that even Paco's very modern take on Soleá as per his Luzia album 1998, I can still locate traces of the original cantus firmus of the Flemish style that was created 501 years ago in his composition. Pedro's lament that people have lost touch with the tradition might be a literal musical technique thing that ties in our intuition for this ancient melodic practice with cante and guitar. Keeping it all from going off the rails might always have been about this. Rosalia chicken teriyaki? She went off the rails. Paco never did, or rather, when he did he trashed it on purpose.

devilhand -> RE: A DOUMENTARY (Jun. 2 2026 8:41:09)
To sanitize this thread, I post the docu I was looking for. Finally I found it.

Ricardo -> RE: A DOUMENTARY (Jun. 2 2026 12:02:46)
That is a good documentary. I was curious about people's opinion about the "Carcelera" or the toná style sung specifically by "prisoners" (44:20 here). I always thought it was very curious to glorify in such a serious and respectful manner the idea of "criminals" singing, artists or not. It turns out I am reading about this historical fact that during the Semana Santa the procession will stop in front of some Jails and demand the prisoners to sing a Saeta (passion of christ lyrics usually, but some vary) or several. The odd thing about it is that it requires a legitimate FLAMENCO CANTAOR to be behind bars, yet the whole town seems to demand the song, and in some cases the best performances were grounds for setting the person FREE. (!!???). Thoughts?

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