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oneofakime -> RE: Hoping to learn Picado (Jun. 24 2025 18:08:08)
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ORIGINAL: Ricardo
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Are you just saying that it technically isn't called Picado or are you suggesting I learn a different technique to address what I'm struggling with?
more or less yes. To do "picado" you have to first understand the compás and purpose of a song form in general that you're attempting to express. What you hear as "fast scale runs" is much more nuanced in the flamenco genre. If you just want to alternate your fingers just go for a basic general classical guitar scale book or whatever. Like Scott Tenant pumping nylon type thing. That might be an easier more general route to using finger alternation. If you want proper "picado" you have to actually start learning flamenco proper from the rasgueado patterns and falsetas, arpeggios etc. that define the form, and the picado starts to come in as you advance RHYTHMICALLY and understand the point of phrasing etc. Scott Tenant actually states in his video (free on YouTube with exercises using staccato that are very recommended) that "you don't have to be like Paco de Lucía, just be YOURSELF". This is a very true statement as you can't actually achieve that sound unless you engage directly with the traditional music. He also makes a sweeping statement about extensor muscles used in rasgueado as implying that FLAMENCO players have this unusual extra "speed" in their scale runs (Picado if you want) from doing this exercise...however as a pro player I have to admit this is an unfounded correlation and that the true reason for monster's like Paco de Lucia and friends in the flamenco genre doing these amazing fast runs is do to the DISCIPLINE OF FLAMENCO IN GENERAL...ie the master of the compas and song forms are very hard and this general work you do is what is creating this "picado" thing specifically, going along with the rest of the baggage of the discipline.
Good luck
Hi Ricardo, thank you for the clarification. I'm still not sure I completely understand, but it sounds like you're trying to give me realistic expectations that without learning all of flamenco, I won't be able to truly master the Picado. That's perfectly fine with me, at least for now. One day I might take on Flamenco as a whole, but at the moment, I'm most interested in the mechanics of Picado to help me play more effectively. I don't expect to get close to Paco's speed or even close to close. It would be nice of course, but it's going to be hard enough for me to re-learn this aspect of my playing, let alone an entire new style when what I'm interested in playing crosses several genres.
I suppose I could figure out the appropriate term for the technique I want to learn from classical, and go find a classical forum to help answer some mechanical questions I have. However, I'm sure I'd run into the same issue there where I'm told that I need to learn classical as a whole to benefit the most. Playing guitar is just one of my hobbies that I'm honestly trying to get back into. I know that for me, the best way to keep myself motivated to play, is to learn pieces that I want to learn and not an entirely new discipline. So I'm going to try to review some other posts (and the video series I see you just added) and then if I do still need to create my own post, I'll be sure to specify that I'm looking for help with the mechanics of Picado.
Thanks,
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