devilhand -> Ring finger apoyando (Apr. 2 2025 22:26:51)
The way I play arpegio is i and m finger tirando and ring finger apoyando. Ring finger apoyando is not accented. Do you guys see any problem with this way of playing arpegio?
Ricardo -> RE: Ring finger apoyando (Apr. 3 2025 11:40:48)
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ORIGINAL: devilhand
The way I play arpegio is i and m finger tirando and ring finger apoyando. Ring finger apoyando is not accented. Do you guys see any problem with this way of playing arpegio?
It is good for when the melody is on the top string. The nature of changing the way you play IS an accent, like it or not (by doing the apoyando you are accenting the a finger, even if you are not playing dynamically louder than the other notes). The main draw back is that it will stop the second string (the note the m finger plays tirando) from ringing, and you might not want that.
devilhand -> RE: Ring finger apoyando (Apr. 5 2025 11:57:44)
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The main draw back is that it will stop the second string (the note the m finger plays tirando) from ringing
I'm gonna lower my hand posture a bit so that I can pluck the strings from below more. But how about V. Amigo's arpegio? I've heard he plays only rest stroke arpegio. Does he have this problem?
Ricardo -> RE: Ring finger apoyando (Apr. 5 2025 13:56:22)
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ORIGINAL: devilhand
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The main draw back is that it will stop the second string (the note the m finger plays tirando) from ringing
I'm gonna lower my hand posture a bit so that I can pluck the strings from below more. But how about V. Amigo's arpegio? I've heard he plays only rest stroke arpegio. Does he have this problem?
Vicente does not ALWAYS do it. Notice here right at the start and along the way the apoyando strokes cut off the ringing, and sound very dry. Even the 4th/5th string sounds like it snaps due to the attack of apoyando, which is weird to hear in arpeggios (watch from 3:50 on). But he does some tirando phrases mixed in that ring out, so it is a matter of personal style and what you want to hear. Gerardo has many pieces all arpeggio and the notes have to be tirando so they ring together to create harmony or dissonance or whatever is required. I must say in flamenco guitar tirando arpeggio is more normal, and what Vicente is doing is not typical.
By contrast a powerful tirando that also lets the notes ring has an elegant shimmering effect vs. a dry apoyando stroke (camera zooms closer at 2 min on, but it is all tirando, where as Vicente would do this type of thing with lots of apoyando:
