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estebanana -> RE: Interesting podcast about Paco de Lucia (Mar. 29 2025 20:41:22)
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ORIGINAL: Ricardo
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ORIGINAL: amigo
He's an awesome guy from Brazil, when he plays scales it's like listening to Paco.
I said this here on the forum years ago, but some people don't agree, of course no one plays exactly like Paco, every person is unique, but I personally have never heard anyone play sixteenths at least at 200 bpm so clearly, staccato, and with awesome attack similar to Paco. It's worth listening to him!
humble apologies but it does not "sound" the same at all. There are several flamenco guitarists that play and sound very much like paco, and at the least those that have played with paco understand the concept of tone production and mechanics in addition to the musical purpose where these "fast" picados are used (aka improvising over Rumba and such). Some players that don't necessarily exhibit the perceived speed of PDL (and his friends that match his speed in concert, Enrique del Melchor, Cañizares, Cepero, his nephew Banderas, Antonio Rey, and even Josele and his young nephew Antonio managed to develop sitting next to paco and trade with him on Zyrab, being afraid at first), manage to deliver very nice playing and Picados that sound good and flamenco within the scope of their personal style. There are the speedy solo guys as well (Grisha and Javier Conde namely), and all these folks do it more or less "the right way" which is to say, I-m alternation and other details from the flamenco aesthetic.
The Brazil guitar is a very different aesthetic, not to say it is lesser or greater, but unique in the sense the person interviewed as the same sound and approach to tone as Powell, Rabello, Yamandu, and etc. It is very simply NOT flamenco sounding, and that is cool, it is by design. Rafael Cortez, Nuñez, and others have explored the 3-finger scales as a different approach, but with understand it sounds distinct. So People getting all excited about this guy with the Brazil sound matching the speed, I just don't get it. It is by design not supposed to be the same thing and it is cool for what it is. How about he try to sound like Cepero plays today for cante and such, considering Cepero matches that same speed of picado (or used to at least) using the standard method?
Well the guy does not have to do it because he is not a flamenco guitarist he is Brazil style. So I can't help but feel this "he sounds just like paco OMG!!!" is superficial speed envy or whatever.
Allow me to translate into Bro-Lingo:
Dude, bro, these are not OG’s. These ones are Octo-weens with no rizz. 8 strings played with 3 fingers is some beta snag up. You want 6 cordes 2 digits not the 3 digit bed wetters. Alpha picado bro, with Vietnam lady salon nails brah.
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