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Manitas de Lata -> . (Jan. 2 2024 22:54:08)

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Richard Jernigan -> RE: Help with nut (Jan. 2 2024 23:11:10)

Don't glue the nut in place.

It is meant to be held only by the proper fit of its slot and the tension of the strings.

"Hydration of the scales" is not a phrase in English about flamenco or classical guitars. No part of them is normally called "the scales." Post a picture of a guitsr and clearly indicate which part you are calling "the scales" so somebody can tell you the correct name.

Then perhaps we could figure out what you mean by "hydrating" them.

RNJ




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Richard Jernigan -> RE: Help with nut (Jan. 3 2024 2:53:19)

If the nut fits well in its slot and is held securely by string tension, leave it as it is, don't glue it.

"Fingerboard" and "fretboard" are the usual names for a part of a guitar. I have played guitar for 67 years, but I have never heard or read of any part of one called "the scales."

The Merriam-Webster Dictionary gives the following definitions:

"hydrate

verb
hydrated; hydrating
transitive verb
1
: to cause to take up or combine with water or the elements of water
2
: to supply with ample fluid or moisture
hydrates and softens the skin"

Thus the word is a little confusing. The first definition implies that the fingerboard is made to absorb water. I doubt this is what you meant. More often people put some sort of oil on the fingerboard. This corresponds to the second definition, but again, I have never heard "hydrate" used in this context.

No criticism is implied. I'm just trying to be helpful.

RNJ




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Ricardo -> RE: Help with nut (Jan. 3 2024 12:06:23)

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When i go to the second one i realized that the nut was all loose (WTF?) , i think this isnt a stock feature ... so i saw a classical girl changing strings and the nut of her guitar was all loose (Wtf again) like it was a normal thing..


ABSOLUTELY a normal thing!!!! You are not supposed to take ALL the darn strings off, you can just slack them if necessary, but when changing do one at a time. Otherwise if they must come off then put a little clear tape piece on the nut so you don’t lose it (or put it back in backwards, which is what you would certainly do. [:D]). And when you do make sure you have it aligned as you like (I always push my nuts on EVERY GUITAR I own, a bit up toward the bass side off center, and yes EVERY single nut on all 18 of my guitars are loose enough for an easy slide if the strings are slacking, (except on the Kramer and Ibanez which have locking nut mechanisms).

The reason you don’t want your nut NOR THE BONE SADDLE fitting too snug in the slot is because your guitar and EVERY GUITAR, is made of WOOD. And Ironically, you are using hydrate or whatever wacky thing, the truth is WATER is getting drawn in or expelled at any given moment on your guitar. When it is expelled, things get loose. If the guitar drinks up too much water than you will NEVER be able to change a bone saddle or nut, it will get locked in place. I have to say I have seen this happen to Cejillas (trad style) and Calvijas (pegs). One time I had a gig out door on a humid day and the cejila locked and I could not get it off. Plyers was the only way. Anyway, you don’t want this going on with nuts and bones and yes it is normal that can just fall right out if the guitar is super dry (which yours probably is).




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JasonM -> RE: Help with nut (Jan. 4 2024 2:13:44)

I wonder if the wood shrinks up slightly over time causing the nut slot to become loose -er? Theoretically, the head plate and scale grain fibers are running length wise and shrink /expand width wise, perpendicular to scale. plus they are laminated to the neck adding more stability. But I reckon it only takes a few thousands of an inch to move along the end grain to affect nut slot…? Anyway, why am I even giving this thought? Isn’t there something I could be watching on TV, hydrating with cervesa?




rombsix -> RE: Help with nut (Jan. 4 2024 3:47:51)

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I always push my nuts on EVERY GUITAR I own


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Ricardo -> RE: Help with nut (Jan. 4 2024 11:44:07)

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theres no wacky thing , its a fret hydrate , very common for decades, so , to clean (with the lemon oil) the fingerboard , hydrate (with the hydrate)


Ever heard of water and a cloth? (Damp cloth). That cleans just as well. I only dampen part of the cloth then use the dry part to dry it all when done. At least for all ebony boards and Polyurethane finishes that has always done the job. Special cleaners only needed for French Polish shellac guitars.




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Stu -> RE: Help with nut (Jan. 4 2024 14:55:51)

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off topic , i think that i saw something from you regarding pick ups or so

i received for christmas an audio interface with record/produce software, so i was thinkin about to plug the Flamenco guitar to the interface , my guitar isnt wired amp , so i have to do it with an external pick up or something like that like .

What do you recommend that have nice quality and not very expensive ?


external pickup?!!

ever heard of a microphone?

I've got one of these. its pretty great
https://www.bartlettaudio.com/products/guitar-mic-phantom-powered




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AndresK -> RE: Help with nut (Jan. 4 2024 17:19:07)

If your audio interface has phantom power, any condenser microphone will do the job. If you do not have phantom power them you can get a condenser with a battery as Shure pg81 or akg c1000 . For many years I use akg c535 for live performances and recording at home which is actually a handheld microphone for singers. So get a cheap condenser and start recording.




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silddx -> RE: Help with nut (Jan. 4 2024 19:25:19)

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whats a Phatom power?


https://www.sweetwater.com/sweetcare/articles/what-phantom-power-need/




Stu -> RE: Help with nut (Jan. 4 2024 20:08:44)

Now you know. You Will notice you have it in that bit of kit. Little switch on bottom right area. Nice




El Burdo -> RE: Help with nut (Jan. 4 2024 20:40:30)

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I've got one of these. its pretty great
https://www.bartlettaudio.com/products/guitar-mic-phantom-powered


So do I. They are really good - but there was an issue with the lengths of the connections to amplification etc. in the beginning that any potential purchaser should be aware of (in terms of 2nd hand).

The battery box had a clip to attach to clothing but it was easy to pull the box off your belt or tear the wire out of the amp. when standing up etc. Altogether very constricting.

Others obviously found the same problem and must have been more vocal about it because Bruce lengthened the cables and also improved the positioning of the mic and its sensitivity.

It's still a class act and now with no physical useability issues.

He also is a very decent guy and went out of his way to help me out, even to me being in the UK and he in North Carolina.




ernandez R -> RE: Help with nut (Jan. 4 2024 21:02:44)

https://www.bartlettaudio.com/collections/instrument-mics/products/guitar-mic-b-battery-powered

There is this version with a 1/4 phone plug instead of the XLR



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Stu -> RE: Help with nut (Jan. 5 2024 8:19:51)

yeah the cable isnt that long on mine. have always had to travel with extra xlr to extened to phantom powerr unit then another to go into the amp.

a bit fiddly, but works well enough.




rombsix -> RE: Help with nut (Jan. 7 2024 15:29:41)

quote:

off topic , i think that i saw something from you regarding pick ups or so

i received for christmas an audio interface with record/produce software, so i was thinkin about to plug the Flamenco guitar to the interface , my guitar isnt wired amp , so i have to do it with an external pick up or something like that like .

What do you recommend that have nice quality and not very expensive ?


This microphone: https://www.shure.com/en-US/products/microphones/sm57?variant=SM57-LC

These headphones: https://www.audio-technica.com/en-us/ath-m50x

Watch this video to learn about recording:





Manitas de Lata -> [Deleted] (Nov. 16 2024 19:49:10)

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Stu -> RE: Help with nut (Nov. 17 2024 18:16:35)

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can someone move these posts related to audio (not related to nut) to the topic of "my progression log" ?


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ernandez R -> RE: Help with nut (Nov. 18 2024 1:27:54)

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ORIGINAL: Stu

quote:

can someone move these posts related to audio (not related to nut) to the topic of "my progression log" ?


[:D][&:]


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Saying
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Manitas de Lata -> [Deleted] (Nov. 18 2024 10:42:19)

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Stu -> RE: Help with nut (Nov. 18 2024 12:09:42)

Look if there's no moderator to keep your flagrant, random spamming and necro posting in check.... there's not gonna be a moderator to curate your personal progression log for you.

The thing I jokingly tell you not to do has caught you out.. and now you want admin to clean up after you?

I'm afraid that is funny.




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