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Joan Maher -> Anders Eliasson (Dec. 4 2023 20:03:12)
Guitar

Joan Maher -> [Deleted] (Dec. 4 2023 22:09:09)
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ernandez R -> RE: Anders Eliasson (Dec. 4 2023 22:19:02)
It’s posable the case induced some trauma or having something stacked on the case? I’ve had to mod a few cases to adapt to the peg head angle etc. It’s just an idea. What were the storage temperature and humidity situations? Regardless I would keep the strings off her until you figure it out. It’s not going to get better and under string tension the forces are multiplied as the strings get higher off of f12/the top. Simply a matter of increased leverage :/ Always good to mention your location so you can be directed toward a suitable luthier. I’m in Alaska USA so if your in the naiborhood bring it on over ;) HR

Joan Maher -> RE: Anders Eliasson (Dec. 5 2023 6:17:21)
Stored cool dark room and flat and I am in Spain, I build guitars myself so can fix just unwanted hassle.

Manitas de Lata -> RE: Anders Eliasson (Dec. 5 2023 8:54:24)
did you relaxed the strings when stored? i know a guy that a few years ago have his allambra F7 with a relative big crack, still sound ok but not perfect If i can remember his Anders had no crack but it wasnt 100% ok i think due to humidity the only one that he care more was his old Paulino Bernabe Myself had storage in case for 1 year and forget to relax the strings , when open had the 6 string broken and maybe the 5th can remember My guitar is not expensive... but i like her , all solid, almost new and is worth some hundreds of euros . Since we are talking about , anybody recomends a humidty check and control sistem ? need a humidty check device and a humidty control gadget like this : Images are resized automatically to a maximum width of 800px

Manitas de Lata -> RE: Anders Eliasson (Dec. 5 2023 10:21:58)

Ricardo -> RE: Anders Eliasson (Dec. 6 2023 11:39:26)
This is normal for guitars not played or cared for. Humidity changed and the neck either bent or the top sunk down. No fixes really, though we have tried in the past. It sounds like it is ruined. New finger board can fix it, but most other things will be temporary. I remember Anders set the bridge low so you can’t lower the bridge.

constructordeguitarras -> RE: Anders Eliasson (Dec. 6 2023 22:44:20)
quote: has anyone else experienced this Yes, I have experienced similar things happening (necks warping) a couple of times, under conditions where other guitars were fine. It's rare but one never knows what wood is going to do.

estebanana -> RE: Anders Eliasson (Dec. 6 2023 22:46:12)
The modern remedy for necks bending forward is to remove the fingerboard and push the neck back into its correct angle set, then rout a channel down the middle of the neck and epoxy in a carbon fiber spar. Make a n w fingerboard and set up the guitar. That usually fixes it for life. The other way to go is reverse plane the fingerboard. Change the angle of the set up by taking planing a reverse angle from the 12th fret to the nut. It’s not as satisfying as deconstructing the set up and doing it over. But less work. Guitars, flamenco guitars in particular, move a tiny bit probably in the first five or ten years, but once the neck moves it usually stays there forever, barring exposure to drastic atmospheric changes. It’s been my observation that the carbon fiber spar implant usually works to stop the neck from moving past the good flamenco set up zone. And it definitely stiffens the neck so it doesn’t get excessive string relief. In the past planing the neck to effect the kind of action you want was a topic we should go into sometime.

Firefrets -> RE: Anders Eliasson (Dec. 7 2023 2:30:24)
I read many luthiers talk about planing a new angle in to the fingerboard but it can cause complications, as the break angle of the headstock changes drastically. I recently used that method just to gain a bit of insight, but had to both reduce the thickness of the headstock plate, and extend the headstock routing by about an inch, in order to accommodate the new string path afterwards, so it can be a lot more trouble than it's worth. Afterwards, the neck is weaker, even if it's straighter, and the fingerboard can take a long time to settle,, so not much point trying to level off for at least a few weeks. I'm not set up yet for routing out a channel for a fibre rod, on a neck still attached to a body, so need to figure something out for that, be it a jig etc. Mostly I've been using heat, and a bit of fretwork to remove relief, as it keeps everything original. Any thoughts on the above points?

Firefrets -> RE: Anders Eliasson (Dec. 7 2023 2:48:26)
The picture of the plane is mostly symbolic, as in reality, I used a few different planes, and sanding beams etc, and had to keep cutting the fret slots etc etc - you've been there .... I just applied what I'd learned from making a neck in the summer and took a deep breath. The first slot took me a few hours, as had to figure it all out, but once I had the feel for it the 2nd only took a fraction of the time, and like anything, the next time I have to do it, it will be much quicker. [img]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53379912017_6fa1cfea6a_b.jpg[/img] [img]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53379907557_cff2be4248_b.jpg[/img] [img]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53381063018_512a09ac52_b.jpg[/img] [img]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53381269985_faf4331c84_b.jpg[/img] [img]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53381295695_d7ed10abb6_b.jpg[/img]

Joan Maher -> RE: Anders Eliasson (Dec. 7 2023 6:54:59)
Thanks for the feedback

Joan Maher -> RE: Anders Eliasson (Dec. 7 2023 6:59:16)
No definitely not ruined, bridge bone was very high so can probably get it back down to 2mm at 12th fret. Just need to understand why the movement.

Firefrets -> RE: Anders Eliasson (Dec. 7 2023 12:13:30)
I wouldn't touch the set up until you figure out the cause. Have you checked the neck angle and the relief? What about the soundboard or internals?

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