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rafapak -> how to count sixteenth notes in spanish language ? (Oct. 9 2023 22:45:44)

people who speak english count this like : one ,e, and, a, two,e, and, a ...etc

what about spanish speaking people ?




Richard Jernigan -> RE: how to count sixteenth notes in spanish language ? (Oct. 10 2023 5:01:43)

In Spanish a whole note is a redonda. Successive subdivisions are blanca, negra, corchea, semicorchea....

Thus sixteenth notes are semicorcheas. They are counted much as in English, eight semicorcheas in 4/4 time: un-e-y-a, dos-e-y-a.

RNJ




silddx -> RE: how to count sixteenth notes in spanish language ? (Oct. 10 2023 7:00:42)

Richard, how is the 'y' pronounced please?




orsonw -> RE: how to count sixteenth notes in spanish language ? (Oct. 10 2023 8:29:52)

More often flamencos vocalise in way similar to konnakol: 'taka taka'




silddx -> RE: how to count sixteenth notes in spanish language ? (Oct. 10 2023 8:54:38)

Yeah that's what I've usually seen and heard.




Stu -> RE: how to count sixteenth notes in spanish language ? (Oct. 10 2023 13:14:00)

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Richard, how is the 'y' pronounced please?


Eee

And the e is pronounced ey/eh

But maybe you're just setting up some funnies with your question so sorry if I took it seriously.

Yeah I've not heard Spanish flamenco folk counting 16th like you ask rafa. Turns into taka taka like Orson said




silddx -> RE: how to count sixteenth notes in spanish language ? (Oct. 10 2023 13:48:04)

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Eee

And the e is pronounced ey/eh

But maybe you're just setting up some funnies with your question so sorry if I took it seriously.

Yeah I've not heard Spanish flamenco folk counting 16th like you ask rafa. Turns into taka taka like Orson said


No I was being serious Stu, I'd not heard it was done that way before, always that taka taka method.

Thanks for the info mate.




Stu -> RE: how to count sixteenth notes in spanish language ? (Oct. 10 2023 14:21:23)

I've not really heard that way either tbh.

But I know y is the word for AND, and that's how you'd pronounce it normally. So.....




Goldwinghai -> RE: how to count sixteenth notes in spanish language ? (Oct. 10 2023 19:45:57)

The Spanish men's soccer/futbol team employed the sixteenth notes rhythm TIKITAKA when they played in the world cup 2, 3 cycles ago. Sorry I have to put this in.




rafapak -> RE: how to count sixteenth notes in spanish language ? (Oct. 10 2023 21:16:05)

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In Spanish a whole note is a redonda. Successive subdivisions are blanca, negra, corchea, semicorchea....

Thus sixteenth notes are semicorcheas. They are counted much as in English, eight semicorcheas in 4/4 time: un-e-y-a, dos-e-y-a.

RNJ




at 7th minute and 11th second he starts counting . is he counting eight notes or sixteenth notes ?

how one would count the same rhythm if it was supposed to be done in english language ?




Stu -> RE: how to count sixteenth notes in spanish language ? (Oct. 10 2023 21:56:47)

8th notes.

Un y dos y tres etc

One and two and three etc

1+2+3 etc




rafapak -> RE: how to count sixteenth notes in spanish language ? (Oct. 10 2023 22:01:54)

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8th notes.

Un y dos y tres etc

One and two and three etc

1+2+3 etc


thanks. Now i realized kai narezo talks about the same thing in this video





Richard Jernigan -> RE: how to count sixteenth notes in spanish language ? (Oct. 10 2023 23:31:14)

While I was a classically trained trumpet playing kid, the answer I gave was what I picked up from my Spanish speaking classical friends. I'm not surprised that flamencos say something different.

My trumpeting friends also imitated double-tonguing: "tiki-taka," and triple-tonguing: "tikiti-takata".

RNJ




devilhand -> RE: how to count sixteenth notes in spanish language ? (Oct. 11 2023 0:02:49)

Triplet (Pai or Pmp) ta-ka-ta
Pai Pai P takata takata ta

P pulgar up
p pulgar down




Ricardo -> RE: how to count sixteenth notes in spanish language ? (Oct. 11 2023 11:52:26)

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ORIGINAL: rafapak

people who speak english count this like : one ,e, and, a, two,e, and, a ...etc

what about spanish speaking people ?


Flamencos count 16ths or 4 per beat like this:





devilhand -> RE: how to count sixteenth notes in spanish language ? (Oct. 11 2023 12:17:27)

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Flamencos count 16ths or 4 per beat like this:

Yes. Exactly what I wrote above. I believe gitanos count subdivisions like this:
Four 16th notes ta-ka-ta-ka
16th note triplet ta-ka-ta

@rafapak
You can count triplets ra-fa-pak ra-fa-pak if you want to. Just kidding because the last k gets in the way.




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