RobF -> RE: Counterfeit Reyes? (Sep. 26 2023 17:50:44)
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ORIGINAL: yourwhathurts69 In the US (where the item is being sold) and most other countries, it is illegal to sell or purchase a counterfeit. Concerns can be brought up with the seller and Reverb, but that does not automatically mean the seller or Reverb will remove the listing. If you were dishonest and trying to sell a counterfeit, would you remove the listing because someone told you privately it was counterfeit? Or, would you instead try to find an ignorant buyer? What kind of proof would you want to see? Is a forged signature or fake stamp not proof? I think it is appropriate to discuss possible inauthentic items on appropriate forums to either warn/educate the community or to clarify things people can look for to discover a counterfeit, especially considering that the musical instrument market is flooded with counterfeits. Being that this is described as a Reyes flamenco guitar, do you not think a flamenco forum is an appropriate place to have an authenticity conversation? First off, you have not presented any proof. You have said nothing to convince me, whatsoever. On the other hand, there are quite a few aspects about the guitar that make it look genuine. The onus is on you to prove the wrong, not on the owner to defend their innocence. I think posts like this, which use the Foro as a bully pulpit, are completely inappropriate. Take it to Delcamp or wherever and see how far it gets. How are we to know that the intent of what amounts to be a fishing expedition isn’t to reduce the saleability of the guitar for the advantage of some unnamed purchaser? If I owned the guitar I’d be contacting Simon and requesting that this thread be deleted unless concrete proof of wrong-doing can be presented. This is all speculation that has the end result of casting doubt and harming someone. There’s laws against that, too. Authenticity discussions can be appropriate when presented in a detailed manner by accepted experts, such as the Foro member Echi. Even then, caution should be exercised. Yeah, people can blah blah blah all day long about the authenticity of certain sunburst Les Paul’s seen in a coffee table book. People can blah blah blah about whatever they want. If the Foro degenerates into what amounts to be a gossip column, then watch how long any serious makers will stick around. It diminishes the place.
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