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mark indigo -> RE: the idea of exercises for beginners (Aug. 18 2023 18:18:25)
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Not quite right at 3:30. It's not boring. Steady beats tell you something because our brain tends to divide these beats into groups of 2, 3, or 4... beats. So 4/4 or 3/4 etc. time is already there if we want it or not.
rubbish. a straight click has no rhythm. and this guy has probably forgotten more than you know.
I don’t think what devilhand is saying is rubbish, at all. The brain does provide the pattern. It’s kind of fundamental. I don’t want to put words in anyone’s mouths but isn’t that essentially the point Ricardo is making when he encourages the use of a metronome over Palmas tracks and such?
Devilhazard said Guillermo was "not quite right". Guillermo was making a distinction between beat and rhythm. He is right, because they are in fact different things. If you watched his video, he set his metronome to 90 bpm. If you set a metronome to 90 bpm is it in 2 time? or 3 time? or 4 time? or is it contratiempo? None of the above, it's just a click. The next thing he says is, "we need to create cycles... we need to group beats together..." in other words, we create a pattern out of that string of uniform beats. You can use that click to practise or play any rhythm or compas as Ricardo advocates, but whatever rhythm or compas is not there in the click or beat, we bring that to it, so yes, "the brain does provide a pattern", but that was pretty much the next thing Guillermo said, so saying he is "not quite right" is just what I said, "rubbish".
You may take exception to me calling another members' post "rubbish", but from my point of view he/she/they (who knows?) is making a nonsense criticism of a pro who has spent years playing professionally in Spain accompanying singers like Rocio Marquez, going out of his way to explain rhythm at a basic level.
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