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rafapak -> is it me or this person really has good quality guitar (Aug. 15 2023 21:48:43)

this must be very expensive guitar



Stu -> RE: is it me or this person really has good quality guitar (Aug. 15 2023 22:41:51)

What makes you say that?

I mean you're probably right. I can't make out the head stock but it probably is at the least, a decent luthier made guitar as he seems a serious player.

But this isn't remarkable. Many people have similar
decent guitars.



RobF -> RE: is it me or this person really has good quality guitar (Aug. 15 2023 23:47:16)

It’s a decent quality guitar, which doesn’t necessarily mean expensive. He appears to be from the Jaén/Granada area, so it might be the work of a Granada maker or someone in that region. It’s quite likely he won’t mind giving you their name if you send him a message on Facebook or post on his YouTube page and ask him.



xirdneH_imiJ -> RE: is it me or this person really has good quality guitar (Aug. 16 2023 0:42:44)

I don't know the maker, but it buzzes like mad so even if it could be good, it sounds quite horrible to my ears. Could definitely use an adjustment in setup.



estebanana -> RE: is it me or this person really has good quality guitar (Aug. 16 2023 1:09:10)

It could be a made by Jorge in Jerez.



estebanana -> RE: is it me or this person really has good quality guitar (Aug. 16 2023 1:10:14)

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ORIGINAL: rafapak

this must be very expensive guitar




Why don’t you just ask him in the comment section?



orsonw -> RE: is it me or this person really has good quality guitar (Aug. 16 2023 11:12:18)

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It could be a made by Jorge in Jerez.


Hard to see clearly in the video, but I also thought the headstock shape reminded me of Jorge de Zofia.



Ricardo -> RE: is it me or this person really has good quality guitar (Aug. 16 2023 17:00:35)

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ORIGINAL: xirdneH_imiJ

I don't know the maker, but it buzzes like mad so even if it could be good, it sounds quite horrible to my ears. Could definitely use an adjustment in setup.


Ditto. And the trebles don’t sing at all, only basses project strongly. Different string brand is a must.



rafapak -> RE: is it me or this person really has good quality guitar (Aug. 16 2023 20:46:57)

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Ditto. And the trebles don’t sing at all, only basses project strongly. Different string brand is a must.


i wonder if this is different guitar but to me it doesnt buzz at all




xirdneH_imiJ -> RE: is it me or this person really has good quality guitar (Aug. 16 2023 21:25:09)

Your hearing will improve the more you play and listen and will develop your own taste for guitars. I prefer non-buzzy ones, and many people like them. Also many people will sacrifice tone for playability, lowering action to absurd levels (like this guy apparently) and others will choose tone over playability. The basses buzz very distinctly so that's easier to hear, the dead trebles are less obvious in this case.
Like Ricardo says, changing the brand of strings could be a solution, although I've found that no matter what guitar I play, I prefer the same strings and they're the only ones that really work for ME (rather than the instrument).



rafapak -> RE: is it me or this person really has good quality guitar (Aug. 17 2023 23:05:00)

what strings you use ?



xirdneH_imiJ -> RE: is it me or this person really has good quality guitar (Aug. 18 2023 10:14:26)

I used to use Luthier Silver 45 (Hard tension), these days Knobloch QZ Nylon (High tension). They combine great tonal qualities with durability.

You'll probably have to go through a bunch of brands and types of strings before you find what works best for you though.



rafapak -> RE: is it me or this person really has good quality guitar (Aug. 18 2023 21:01:14)

thanks for info



rafapak -> RE: is it me or this person really has good quality guitar (Aug. 18 2023 23:31:58)

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Your hearing will improve the more you play and listen and will develop your own taste for guitars. I prefer non-buzzy ones, and many people like them. Also many people will sacrifice tone for playability, lowering action to absurd levels (like this guy apparently) and others will choose tone over playability. The basses buzz very distinctly so that's easier to hear, the dead trebles are less obvious in this case.
Like Ricardo says, changing the brand of strings could be a solution, although I've found that no matter what guitar I play, I prefer the same strings and they're the only ones that really work for ME (rather than the instrument).


is it possible to find cypress flamenco guitar that doesnt buzz ?



xirdneH_imiJ -> RE: is it me or this person really has good quality guitar (Aug. 19 2023 13:23:45)

Of course you can. You could also take yours to a luthier to set it up correctly. Ideally you want around 2.8 mm at the 12th fret, that's the most typical flamenco setup, but I think most luthiers will set up around 3mm so there's less buzzing and room for adjustment. Also, because of string tension, a hard string is less likely to buzz than a normal (or low) tension one. As a beginner you're more likely to play with a lot of power too (hence more string buzz), but that'll improve over time.



Ricardo -> RE: is it me or this person really has good quality guitar (Aug. 19 2023 17:27:22)

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is it possible to find cypress flamenco guitar that doesnt buzz ?


Keep in mind buzzing is caused by two things mainly. As mentioned strings set too low force bass strings to rattle and trebles to lose resonance as they slap the fret. Also the left hand might push the string too gently and the bass string will rattle and the trebles sound muted. That is a technique issue of course. Conversely a guitar set too high will properly sing out if you press hard enough and play melodic lines, but when doing rhythm (compas) the chords sound mushy if they don’t have a bit of snap (buzz only a touch from hard attack) for percussive attack. This results in a challenge for builders to attempt to hit a Goldilocks set up where the guitar does not buzz TOO much, but just enough for aggressive rhythm playing. Much of this Goldilocks set up is about the neck angle design, with the adjustable bridge saddle open to fine tune to individual playing styles. It is good to not buy or pass on a guitar due to buzzing as it could be a simple saddle height adjustment. The Player in the video has chosen a severely low set up and this could be his own fault and not the maker.



rombsix -> RE: is it me or this person really has good quality guitar (Aug. 20 2023 20:43:49)

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this must be very expensive guitar


So who is the maker?

I also looked at your thread here: http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=348316&appid=&p=&mpage=1&key=&tmode=&smode=&s=#348316 and it did not clarify.

Now I'm just curious. [:D]



Stu -> RE: is it me or this person really has good quality guitar (Aug. 20 2023 21:13:41)

😂 ha.Yeah rafapak never did come back to this thread and share the makers name!?



kitarist -> RE: is it me or this person really has good quality guitar (Aug. 20 2023 21:32:27)

First post in the other thread:

"This guitar was built by granadian luthier Juan Fernandez Utrera. "

Apparently you have/had one [:D], your visage comes up when googling the luthier..



rombsix -> RE: is it me or this person really has good quality guitar (Aug. 22 2023 5:13:39)

Oh, whoops - I guess I missed that bit of information LOL

I personally think the blanca cutaway by Juan Fernandez Utrera that I bought second-hand sounds very good.

I had no access to the guitar because of the recent major flooding in my apartment, but I literally got it back *yesterday* after it being at a friend's place for several months, and I restrung it.

It sounds stellar to my ears, but I am losing my hearing these days (unfortunately, and I think it's going to keep declining), so I'll try to make a video in the next several days/weeks (working insane hours), and y'all can tell me what you think.



rombsix -> RE: is it me or this person really has good quality guitar (Aug. 23 2023 19:28:25)




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